I've recently been reasonably happy with FSD. But. I paid for it with my car 4 years ago, but I didn't actually get it until ~2 years ago, and even then, it's been fairly sketchy, and only getting a bit less sketchy with recent updates.<p>I believed their initial claims about what was then simply called "Autopilot", and I'm kind of mad at myself for doing so.<p>I'm also mad that FSD development has been switched to a new version of the autopilot hardware that my car doesn't have, and apparently can never be upgraded to.<p>The irony is, I would at least <i>consider</i> a new Tesla, were it not for Elon's antics and interference in US politics. While he's still there, I will never buy another Tesla, and I won't keep this one when the warranty runs out, at the end of this year.
Elon's been on quite the information suppression run this week. Adding a dislike button, telling his followers to bury left content, and stories about his attempts to "win at nuclear war"<p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1eu994l/musk_is_the_star_of_project_2025_hint/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1eu994l/mus...</a>
I never understood how they didn't get in trouble for false advertising.<p>The case that particularly comes to mind is the 2016/2017 cars sold as "Full Self Driving Capable" that later ended up requiring a $2000 update.
Generous interpretation: they want to make better and stop implying untrue things in their marketing.<p>Cynical version: something very bad happened that we will hear in the news in next couple of days and they are panic scrubbing stuff.
Very recently they forked hardware 4 and hardware 3 FSD versions… I wonder if they’re about to attempt to claim older HW3 capable vehicles can’t actually do “actual” FSD and only HW4 “can”. Or maybe only HW5.<p>Either way, they’re gonna get a line of lawsuits ready if they do.
Anyone who is still thinking to trust Tesla AP/FSD should watch this video [1]<p>Most of the Tesla's high stock valuation depends on them executing Robotaxi biz plan and seeing how Waymo cars are self-driving in some cities for so long and now beginning on highways, I still wonder why is taking them so long to understand the proven first-principle that LIDAR and Radars are essential hardware components to solve self driving and they just can't rely on cameras alone.<p>[1] <a href="https://youtu.be/V2u3dcH2VGM?si=iUvrnZWgYK9stylv" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/V2u3dcH2VGM?si=iUvrnZWgYK9stylv</a>
People haven't forgotten the promises. I expect that Tesla will be forced to upgrade older cars with a new autopilot computer. It will probably happen after their next chip release. In fact, that's why I purchased FSD in the first place. It was only $3k at the time and already included one guaranteed computer upgrade (which I did later get); I suspected a second computer upgrade would eventually be required. Possibly a camera upgrade as well.
Tesla's "Fake Self Driving" is looking pathetic compared to Waymo's real self driving. Tesla was going to announce their self-driving taxi a few weeks back.[1] Now that's "slipped" to October. If it really worked at all, there would be Tesla robo-taxis with safety drivers visible on the roads right now. We'd see them slowly going fully autonomous, like Waymo and Cruise did. Nobody is reporting seeing such test cars on the road. We got to watch Waymo get slowly better for years, with public reports to DMV of every incident. Each year, the stats got better, and eventually they got DMV approval for full autonomy carrying paying passengers. Now, they're a routine part of San Francisco life.<p>[1] <a href="https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-robotaxi-everything-confirmed/" rel="nofollow">https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-robotaxi-everything-confirmed...</a>
So they finally stopped lying about their deceptive advertising over their Fools Self Driving (FSD) contraption?<p>That system was indefensible and has put the lives of drivers on the road at risk as I have said many times before. [0]<p>At least for FSD it is time for the fanatics to snap out of Tesla's lies over this scam as well as the 'promises' which Elon repeatedly claimed to deliver. [0]<p>[0] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32575938">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32575938</a>
After 8 years of cashing in on the hype. Better late than never. Especially when there are no penalties, and umpteen FSD subscribers sending Tesla money.