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Notes on Buttondown.com

126 pointsby luu9 months ago

21 comments

4ar0n9 months ago
I just signed up for Buttondown after researching and comparing a dozen other newsletter platforms.<p>I told our CEO that Buttondown is exactly the kind of scrappy startup we&#x27;d want representing our own startup.<p>If it&#x27;s helpful for the HackerNews community, I&#x27;ve made my comparison spreadsheet free to view: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;1P9FyAYDdFZvTzmXVQi8A-pfKSa7gPG1c2v0L3-GH8uU&#x2F;edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;1P9FyAYDdFZvTzmXVQi8A...</a><p>(I&#x27;m not an employee and have no financial incentive, I&#x27;m just a fan.)
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jrflowers9 months ago
&gt; people stop referring to Buttondown as &quot;Buttondown Email&quot;, a personal pet peeve of mine<p>This is funny because I only remember Buttondown Email because I love the name and domain. I am either going to keep remembering it as Buttondown Email or eventually forget it as Generic Noun Unrelated To Product 9000
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jmduke9 months ago
Author here! Happy to answer any questions folks have.<p>(I would also be remiss if I didn&#x27;t say that I am grateful to HN for introducing me to what was called microISVs a decade ago, &quot;indie hacking&quot; five years ago, and now I suppose is mostly called &quot;building in public&quot; &#x2F; &quot;lifestyle businesses&quot;. I was inspired to start Buttondown in no small part due to reading about Candy Japan, Appointment Reminder, et al, and learning that there was a different yet equally valid path for growing a SaaS)
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jicea9 months ago
&gt; We ended up using hurl as a test harness around HAProxy, something we probably should have done three years ago.<p>As maintainer of Hurl [1], this makes me happy!<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hurl.dev" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hurl.dev</a>
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nine_k9 months ago
So, switching the domain to buttondown.com brought an uptick of traffic quickly.<p>People apparently still hear a word, type it, and press Ctrl+Enter, or a mobile equivalent.<p>Whoever has been parking the domain likely had made a wise investment, and now received $85k for it. Not millions, but still a new car.
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mwidell9 months ago
For context, Buttondown is like Mailchimp but stripped down to only the essentials. It is simple, has everything I need, but not 1 million things I don&#x27;t need. I love it.
mft_9 months ago
A minor point to feed back: for me, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buttondown.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buttondown.com&#x2F;</a> fails to load, while <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;buttondown.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;buttondown.com&#x2F;</a> works.
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ktosobcy9 months ago
I opened the page and still have no clue that buttondown is...
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jwr9 months ago
The pricing page (in the FAQ section) has a &quot;c..e@buttondown.email&quot; address, so the grep must not have been complete :-)<p>(I&#x27;ve migrated a domain from .io to .com, I can relate)<p>I&#x27;m a possible customer, so I looked at the service and its pricing page and… I&#x27;m not sure if this is a service for me. I send both transactional and non-transactional E-mail, but I don&#x27;t need &quot;list management&quot;, just E-mail processing. Buttondown would be $29&#x2F;month + $50&#x2F;month for whitelabeling, while Postmark would be $15&#x2F;month. Am I missing something?
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duggan9 months ago
I remember when Teamwork&#x27;s founder bought a round of drinks for everyone at a local tech meetup to celebrate acquiring the domain (teamwork.com).<p>I think they paid something like half a million quid for it? It was an absolutely eye watering amount to me at the time (and I think them, in fairness), but past a certain size having your .com was and probably still is big for trust.<p>Which is to say, congratulations! You must be delighted.
hk13379 months ago
Buttondown is intended for marketing emails, like Mailchimp, right? It&#x27;s not necessarily for business email like O365, Google Apps, Fastmail, etc?
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alberth9 months ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;buttondown.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;buttondown.com&#x2F;</a><p>Clickable link, since the blog didn’t have it.
ezekg9 months ago
Last time I tried to buy my .com, the seller countered at $500k. No thanks. Not convinced it&#x27;ll ever be break-even at that ridiculous price. Not sure I&#x27;d even pay $85k. The return on that investment just seems... low.
benjbrooks9 months ago
We’ve been running our company’s friends and family newsletter on buttondown for more than a year and love it! Congrats on the domain purchase.
teekert9 months ago
Oh so nice those fancy tlds and domain names. I have been too &quot;clever&quot; about 2 domains in my life already:<p>First is my private email which has only 4 letters and our national .nl tld. I always have to spell out the domain because it is not really a word, and it sometimes confuses Americans (non-techies) that there is no .com.<p>The second domain is my business domain which has .bio as tld, and now I often see people waiting for more when I say my address, like: &quot;Hi, my address is blabla.bio&quot;, &quot;... and?&quot; &quot;No, that is it, .bio is the end.&quot;<p>So I guess &quot;normal&quot; .com is just the way to go ¯\_(ツ)_&#x2F;¯ (although in both cases that was just too expensive for me and I like short domains a lot myself, I once met someone who had (pattern) xx@yy.dk, apparently the whole company did, I kneeled.)
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big_hacker9 months ago
Amazon SES is $0.10&#x2F;1k email.
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dangus9 months ago
As someone who has never heard of Buttondown before this, I do wonder if this is a strong enough brand name to be worth the expensive domain.<p>It’s not like hey.com or something, it’s kind of a clunky name in the first place.<p>I would have considered renaming the company and picking up a cheaper domain in the process.
jjwtieke9 months ago
Love buttondown. Have been using it for 3-4 months now and it’s everything I need without all the bullshit. Also thanks for your prompt problem solving whenever I find a bug!
ahaapple9 months ago
I&#x27;m going to switch from buttondown to resend
w-ll9 months ago
imma be honest, if i get a email that comes from a buttondown.com server, for something i have never signed up for, im gonna mark as spam... email is hard, and it seams every time a new sender service pops up, It seems to get a lot of bad actors.<p>Your homepage says &quot;and our spam protection is best-in-class.&quot; is that for your client inbox, or mine?
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the_gipsy9 months ago
<p><pre><code> We bought the dot-com-domain and managed not to shit ourselves in the process. </code></pre> Is this company HN sponsored? Why do these marketing pieces reach the frontpage?
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