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Making an atomic trampoline [video]

149 pointsby matricaria9 months ago

10 comments

femto9 months ago
Below is a table of elements used, ordered by boiling point. Beryllium has the lowest boiling point at 2742K. Zirconium has the highest melting point at 2125K. This means the furnace temperature was greater than 2125K.<p>TIG temperature can easily reach 3000C (close enough to 3000K) [1], more than the boiling point of beryllium. The temperature of the metal slug would rise until it reaches thermal equilibrium through heat loss, the energy loss likely being due to the vapourisation of the element with the lowest boiling point: beryllium.<p>That smoke was probably beryllium vapour.<p>I&#x27;m no expert, but I would assume the beryllium vapour would not have made it out of the apparatus. By luck, it would have condensed either before reaching the HEPA filter or on its way through the HEPA filter, even though the HEPA filter was not designed to stop a vapour. Nile Red also had the sense to use a fume cupboard. Despite this, the inside of the apparatus could well have been coated with friable condensed beryllium, which would probably not have been flushed by the argon. If doing this, I&#x27;d take additional precautions against condensing beryllium vapour containing the equipment (I don&#x27;t know what they might be).<p>Maybe it&#x27;s a case of controlling arc temperature to keep it below the boiling point of beryllium? Maybe a small amount of impurity with a lower boiling point can be added to the mix, so it boils off first and avoids the beryllium boiling? This might also prevent loss of beryllium from altering the composition of the glass?<p>How would the pros handle this risk?<p>I gather there are similar issues with the refining of silicon, in which silicon vapour can cause silicosis.<p><pre><code> Element Melt Boil Beryllium 1560K 2742K Copper 1357K 2835K Nickel 1728K 3003K Titanium 1491K 3560K Zirconium 2125K 4650K </code></pre> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hypertextbook.com&#x2F;facts&#x2F;2007&#x2F;AnthonyHo.shtml" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hypertextbook.com&#x2F;facts&#x2F;2007&#x2F;AnthonyHo.shtml</a>
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JKCalhoun9 months ago
I recall a display at the Museum of Science and Industry back in the early 1970&#x27;s that featured steel balls bouncing on steel plinths not unlike the video.<p>I recall too a pair of angled plinths and the steel balls would appear from an opening in the display, drop and bounce from one plinth to the other before exiting (repeat).<p>No amount of googling has helped shed any light as to &quot;What that was&quot;. Perhaps this metallic glass.<p>(Also recall a computer that you could play Tic-Tac-Toe against. The input was a more or less a telephone keypad, the display large neon X&#x27;s and O&#x27;s. Seven year old me, or thereabouts, was fascinated to read that the computer had never yet lost.)
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gcanyon9 months ago
Nile Red never ceases to amaze with his technical competence. If I tried to do something with beryllium I&#x27;d be dead. And the trampoline would fail.
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rowanG0779 months ago
He really is delving into metallurgy with his more recent videos. Purple gold and now this. What&#x27;s next? Intermetallic titanium gold alloy?
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chii9 months ago
At $14k a piece, buying a vacuum forge just to make one video is an eye popping price to pay!<p>I wonder what else could the forge be used for in future videos?
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somat9 months ago
A thought I had when I saw the original Steve Mould video, and this video made me remember it.<p>What happens if you just use glass for the bouncing surface? I was reading about the materials and I am not sure what property contributes to it&#x27;s bounciness, but I think it is tensile strength(but it may be surface hardness). and regular glass has a slightly lower tensile strength than these amorphous metallic structures, fused quartz has a higher tensile strength, and I was unable to find out what tempered glass is, but I suspect tempered glass would tend to shatter if a small hard ball was bounced off it. Anyway, I was unable to form a good hypothesis as to what would happen, but I did find that mcmaster-carr sells fused quartz disks if anyone wants to try.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcmaster.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;glass-discs&#x2F;ultra-high-temperature-quartz-glass-rods-and-discs&#x2F;?s=glass-discs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcmaster.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;glass-discs&#x2F;ultra-high-tem...</a>
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mikewarot9 months ago
I think electrochemical polishing[1] of the discs on both faces could be done without killing anyone. Since everything happens in a liquid, no vapors should evolve.<p>A VERY flat surface might greatly increase the bounce.<p>A surface coating of BAM[2] might also help, by increasing the hardness, and lubricity.<p>I think there&#x27;s a lot of room to go in increasing the hang time of the bouncing bearing.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Electrochemical_grinding" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Electrochemical_grinding</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Aluminium_magnesium_boride" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Aluminium_magnesium_boride</a>
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perdomon9 months ago
I wish he&#x27;d just talk normal instead of inflecting his voice in that robotic way.
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arendtio9 months ago
Does anyone know why he did not try to increase the argon pressure? Wouldn&#x27;t it help to completely fill the mold with metal?
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emilfihlman9 months ago
I was disappointed it wasn&#x27;t related to low level systems programming haha!