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China's startup ecosystem has almost completely collapsed in the last 5 years

33 pointsby breerbgoat8 months ago

7 comments

refurb8 months ago
One of the drivers of economic development is stability and predictability.<p>Singapore understands this.<p>Ownership rules are clear, and if under dispute, the courts are viewed as reasonable and fair. Business rules are predictable, you don&#x27;t have to worry about making an investment based on assumptions that no longer hold next year.<p>China is the opposite as of the last few years. It&#x27;s no surprise capital goes elsewhere.
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aeternum8 months ago
Is this data actually correct? Looks China is still doing just fine on the tech side, landing a rocket, LLM model that topped coding challenges, robots that are significantly outperforming boston dynamics.<p>Is it just that those companies were founded during the peak?
mensetmanusman8 months ago
The CCP doesn’t want ad-tech startups, so they blew up the whole system.<p>Easier to have zero business leaders that might tip the boat with suggestions.<p>This is ‘let it rot’ in action.
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rurban8 months ago
&gt; VCs in China now spend most of their time suing the startups they invested in to get their money back.<p>&gt; Founders are also now required to be personally liable for their company’s loans.<p>&gt; Hard to imagine why anyone would start a company under these conditions.<p>Whow. They introduced accountability! That would be incredibly harmful to all the crooks out there.<p>Well done
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stonethrowaway8 months ago
Trap for young players: don’t read anything in western world on China. It’s mostly propaganda, misdirection, political games and the like. In other words, pure bullshit if you’re not in the in-crowd to pick up the jokes that TPTB are sending to each other by posting absurd things.
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blackeyeblitzar8 months ago
Is there really an incentive for startups in China today compared to 4 years ago? Look what the government there has done to very rich and influential people in just the last few years. Once you have achieved your goal of building a great business, it can all be taken away from you overnight while you rot in a jail cell. Might as well take it easy and at least enjoy your life instead of losing ten prime years to a hard grind for nothing.
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abdullahkhalids8 months ago
Is there any independent confirmation of these numbers? Seem too extraordinary to be believed without extraordinary evidence.
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