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What Fueled the 'East Asian Miracle'?

25 pointsby aarghh8 months ago

3 comments

jmclnx8 months ago
This starts in the 50s and and seems they argue for Land Reform. Maybe that was part of it. But I say these are far better reasons:<p>1. A local government friendly to the US. Gov type did not matter.<p>2. US Workers starting to want medical benefits, by the late 60s, hardly anyone would take a job without benefits. This includes sick time.<p>3. Environment Controls starting in the 60s. I think this is a big one.<p>4. High Wages in the US<p>5. Improved intercontinental flights and cheap shipping. I think in the 60s the US merchant was quickly being outsourced to cheap countries.<p>6. An of course corporate greed and the rush to make Wall Street happy.<p>You just need to look at ROC in the 90s, lots of companies started moving manufacturing there because Japan and Taiwan was getting too expensive.<p>Now I think they are slowly moving out of ROC to places it SE Asia like Vietnam.
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searealist8 months ago
I&#x27;m guessing the article never once mentions a 106 average IQ.
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chubot8 months ago
From the title, and skimming over this article, I notice an irony: the analysis is &quot;short&quot; by Eastern standards<p>They&#x27;re only talking about the last 100-200 years. That&#x27;s significant on the American time scale, but insignificant on a Chinese one.<p>It&#x27;s interesting to me that older cultures like the Chinese, Japanese, and the Maya view history as cyclical, while Americans tend to have more a narrative of &quot;linear progress&quot;, or even &quot;manifest destiny&quot; (a term I heard in grade school but probably didn&#x27;t really understand until being an adult)<p>---<p>I think Ray Dalio&#x27;s explanation is the most concise and takes into account the cyclical nature of history (and wow this video has 55 M views now)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xguam0TKMw8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xguam0TKMw8</a><p>Roughly speaking, [edited] China and India likely had most of the world GDP for more than 1000 years [1] ... you can think of it as a miracle for them to rise again, or just part of a cycle.<p>And there are absolutely cycles in history, just ones that are longer than any &quot;news&quot; article tends to talk about<p>I also think Americans are now waking up to a cyclical view. Everyone is talking about how this is the &quot;first&quot; generation to make less money than their parents, or the &quot;first&quot; to have shorter life span<p>But it&#x27;s only &quot;first&quot; if you don&#x27;t recognize the cycles! That&#x27;s understandable because of America&#x27;s history, but it is a limited analysis<p>---<p>[1] edit: I looked deeper into this, and I agree it&#x27;s flimsy, as mentioned below. But I think the larger point still stands -- it&#x27;s a only a &quot;miracle&quot; if you&#x27;re looking at a certain time frame, and n=1
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