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Love being interrupted when my monitor asks me to accept user agreements

385 pointsby h2odragon7 months ago

43 comments

rglullis7 months ago
I am seriously considering creating a dropship company focused <i>exclusively</i> on buying and selling electronic components that are sold for parts and people can assemble them at home, Ikea-style.<p>I would start with selling 50&quot; and 65&quot; inch &quot;dumb&quot; TVs. Just the panel, a nice enclosure and a board with an IR receiver, TV tuner and HDMI outputs. BYO top box and Soundbar. I wonder how fast it would take to get 10000 orders.
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wcfields7 months ago
I’ll keep repeating this but I used to be a TPM for “advance analytics” for a major media agency and we used this data in our reporting for ad reach effectiveness.<p>From a previous comment of mine:<p>&gt; … my Insignia TV (best buy store brand) with fire tv built in is basically unusable. Echoing a previous comment I made too, about “smart tvs” and the “streaming sticks”: Hey, have you ever thought of why even the $149 Black Friday loss-leader no-name-brand TVs all have Amazon Fire, Roku, or are now &quot;Smart&quot; in some way? Certainly isn&#x27;t because they need to incentivise you to connect it to the internet so it acts as a Nielsen-esq measurement device of all media you view on the screen via digital fingerprints that exist in all commercial media and advertisements. [1][2]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ispot.tv&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ispot.tv&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.samba.tv&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.samba.tv&#x2F;</a>
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Y_Y7 months ago
<p><pre><code> Is this the future you wanted? (Agree) (Later)</code></pre>
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sxp7 months ago
It appears to be this line of Smart Monitors: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lg.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;smart-monitors" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lg.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;smart-monitors</a><p>Why the fuck would anyone buy a &quot;smart monitor&quot; that is hooked up to a computer? Are they too incompetent to directly watch Netflix&#x2F;Prime&#x2F;etc on the computer? What is LG&#x27;s target audience here?<p>I&#x27;m guessing snwy_me got the monitor from someone else and forgot to factory reset it and disable WiFi.
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perihelions7 months ago
And if you gaze for long into an LG™ liquid-crystal display monitor, the LG™ liquid-crystal display monitor asks your permission to gaze also into you.
bri3d7 months ago
For what it’s worth, this is a Smart TV (ie, a streaming box) that happens to also be monitor sized. I have no idea why anyone would buy one of these for primary use as a computer monitor, and the marketing and messaging is clear and up-front that these are streaming devices running an Internet connected OS.<p>Why streaming devices need to be so ad-infested is a different interesting topic, but IMO this “my monitor has an EULA” thing is just engagement bait.
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amatecha7 months ago
Holy. This is so dire. I like how &quot;smart&quot; is always a euphemism for &quot;shitty&quot; when it&#x27;s the prefix of a technology product.
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HPsquared7 months ago
Is this a side effect of allowing monitors to use USB-C? Is there some driver via WHQL that allows the monitor to connect to the internet???<p>This seems to me like a potential security issue.
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CoastalCoder7 months ago
I&#x27;d love to see a lawsuit regarding them knowingly shipping a monitor with this defect.<p>When the EULA is blocking the content, the monitor isn&#x27;t working as advertised. And they willingly shipped it like that.
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bogwog7 months ago
I wonder what would happen if Amazon introduced a boycott feature. It could be a list of active boycotts next to the buy button on a product page. Customers can choose to join one of the boycotts instead of clicking the buy button, and then get redirected to a list of alternatives.<p>It won&#x27;t ever happen obviously, but I wonder if it would solve these types of problems? Consumers collectively boycotting something is the most powerful way to fight things like this, but I can&#x27;t think of a successful example of that in recent times. Even &quot;viral&quot; boycotts on social media platforms are likely to get limited reach due to algorithm fuckery. Or is it that nobody but us tech nerds actually cares about stuff like this, and even a blatant in-your-face boycott feature on Amazon wouldn&#x27;t make a difference?
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morkalork7 months ago
Coming soon to monitors with integrated webcams: please drink verification can to continue working!
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ortusdux7 months ago
I just want a somewhat trustworthy group to create a &#x27;dumb&#x27; certification.
yu3zhou47 months ago
This is the first time I ever thought we need an open source monitor hardware
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Spooky237 months ago
We updated security policy at our company to prohibit use of monitors that aren’t specifically authorized.<p>One of our customers detected a risk in an audit - it hadn’t occurred to anyone. Now we log display connections and customer facing folks can be terminated for violating the rules.
scrubs7 months ago
Related: my mac bugs the hell out of me to accept new cloud Eula junk after os upgrade ... it&#x27;s constantly popping up every 5 mins or so and can interrupt shutdown. Out stubbornness I&#x27;ve ignored for 6months running.
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Apreche7 months ago
My TV did this. The worst part was that it disappeared so quickly I didn&#x27;t have time to get the remote and acknowledge it. There did not appear to be any way in the settings to go and handle it manually. I just had to wait and get lucky.
doright7 months ago
New video game idea: In the 21st century, with increases in computational and networking power it is now inevitable that any device with a screen attached can be reconfigured to show ads. You fulfill this inevitability by hooking up your portable advertisement control computer to every car infotainment system, smartwatch, and Adafruit 16x16 RGB LED matrix in sight. Bonus points (your salary) for stealth interstitial insertion.
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fortran777 months ago
Many of the responses to the post on X don&#x27;t seem to realize that the _monitor_ is putting up this message, and they&#x27;re blaming &quot;windows&quot;
jiggawatts7 months ago
I don’t know why everyone here thinks it is unconscionable for a hardware vendor to block user access to content with a pop up, when this is <i>standard practice</i> in the entire software industry.[1][2]<p>I’ve had Microsoft Teams interrupt my presentation to a CEO to force me to click through some stupid dialog that a self-important developer put in there at the direction of an an even more self-absorbed manager.<p>“STOP TALKING NOW! You are nothing! Only our imagined legal risks matter! Click here to accept. DO THIS NOW.”<p>It didn’t <i>exactly</i> say that, but it may as well have. That was the meaning.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;how-i-experience-web-today.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;how-i-experience-web-today.com&#x2F;</a><p>[2] Command line tools used in unattended workflows will hang, waiting for EULA acceptance from a human who isn’t there: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stackoverflow.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;5151034&#x2F;psexec-gets-stuck-on-licence-prompt-when-running-non-interactively" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stackoverflow.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;5151034&#x2F;psexec-gets-stuc...</a>
JayGuerette7 months ago
Any TV that doesn&#x27;t have your WiFi password is a dumb TV. No TV I&#x27;ve owned to dated has <i>required</i> network connectivity to work.
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kristjank7 months ago
I am outraged by the lack of outrage over this enshittified dystopia. I would like to think myself better than that but things have really escalated to a point I really wish death and illness upon the advertiser leeches that started and continuously fueled the enshittification train till the point that we&#x27;re at now.
andrepd7 months ago
DRINK VERIFICATION CAN
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fedup37 months ago
If only we had some mechanism to force companies to stop doing things like this, instead of trying to invent economic dead-ends like Lego-style monitor assembly kits or Amazon-flavored voting systems.
notfed7 months ago
Interestingly, the wording of this title painted a VERY different image in my head. Consider the difference between these two:<p>1. &quot;Love being interrupted...&quot;<p>2. &quot;I love being interrupted...&quot;
beefnugs7 months ago
I don&#x27;t get how we have the most connected technology that ever existed, but we dont have proper tools to stick it to these terrible practices?<p>Obviously , en-masse we need to be buying these things, opening them, losing the manuals and packaging, and returning them explaining very clearly how there is unwanted shit in the firmware that was not made clear upfront before purchase.<p>Each of us doing it over and over at every store we have access to.
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y77 months ago
This is one from a line of LG monitors that state they come with webOS<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lg.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;smart-monitors" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lg.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;smart-monitors</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lg.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;monitors&#x2F;lg-32sq730s-w-smart-monitor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lg.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;monitors&#x2F;lg-32sq730s-w-smart-monitor</a>
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tzs7 months ago
A particularly annoying aspect of monitor makers blurring the distinction between monitors and TVs that I hit with my Samsung S9 5K is that my Samsung TV remote can turn the monitor on&#x2F;off and the monitor remote can turn the TV on&#x2F;off.<p>Did it not occur to Samsung that people might have their computer in the same room as their television?
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ankurdhama7 months ago
Please follow a simple rule: Don&#x27;t buy a device that has the word &quot;smart&quot; in its name or description.
vax4257 months ago
In Soviet Russia, monitor monitors YOU.<p>Bwah hah hah!
acd7 months ago
Have your pet accept the EULA :)
mysteria7 months ago
A lot of vehicles also show this on the nav screen every time you start the car, and many websites also display similar popups when you visit. It&#x27;s a disgusting practice but it certainly isn&#x27;t new.<p>BTW if you want a TV that doesn&#x27;t have any of these smart features you can get one of those commercial displays used in malls, train stations, and such. They&#x27;re expensive though.
tlonny7 months ago
I would love to create a simple, searchable directory of consumer appliances, software and services that list all the ways you are _objectively_ fucked over as a consumer (I.e. whether something sells your data, requires always-on internet connectivity, requires additional subscriptions to unlock full functionality, etc..)
ouraf7 months ago
Are monitors so unprofitable you need to add this like of garbage onto it?
austinjp7 months ago
To those here who suggest buying a typical &#x27;smart&#x27; TV and disconnecting it from the internet, there are a few issues. As some have pointed out, TV manufacturers will catch up with this and eventually make it harder. Embedded 5G, voiding warranty if you don&#x27;t accept ads, etc.<p>Buying &#x27;smart&#x27; TVs also sends a signal to the manufacturers that this is what people want (as some here have suggested). It perpetuates the delusion that ad-ridden TVs are acceptable. Vote with your wallet and buy something else.<p>It&#x27;s also somewhat profligate to buy hardware and deliberately disable it (although I entirely understand the motivation and hacker ethos). That hardware represents sunk resources. Buying it to ignore it leaves a bad taste for me. Electronics manufacturers are ecological bad news, in general. I&#x27;d rather not contribute to unnecessary manufacturing if I can avoid it.<p>Regarding quality of image, I kinda suspect that the necessity for ultra-high def TV has been over-sold. Sure, for gaming, home cinema, etc it might be a real concern for some. For me, I&#x27;ve got a genuinely dumb TV and nobody has ever commented on the image quality for TV or movies or gaming (Switch). But maybe this is one area where the visual equivalent of audiophiles will never be dissuaded :)
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mensetmanusman7 months ago
If it gets bad enough Apple will sell monitors at this price point.
fmajid7 months ago
I knew most Smart TVs do these shenanigans, but computer monitors?
scrubs7 months ago
Related: my mac bugs the hell out of me to accept new cloud Eula junk after os upgrade ... it&#x27;s constantly popping up every 5 mins or so and can interrupt shutdown. Out stubbornness I&#x27;ve ignored for 6 months running.
buttercraft7 months ago
What keyboard is that and where do I get one?
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talldayo7 months ago
HN will really say anything except &quot;We should regulate common-sense bad behavior&quot; huh?
rspoerri7 months ago
Better get a firewall for you monitor. Maybe a usb-c plug that filters non visual traffic? &#x2F;s
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mimischi7 months ago
So is this Recall by Microsoft, without having to use Windows? Great!<p>&#x2F;s
andrewinardeer7 months ago
Did they really get interrupted or did they willingly click into &#x27;Settings&#x27; and select &#x27;Reset AD ID&#x27;?<p>Why would a device, monitor or TV or refrigerator, randomly reset it&#x27;s AD ID?<p>I believe this is just your stock standard X (formerly known as Twitter) ragebait post.<p>Congratulations, you fell for it.<p>It&#x27;s a shame ragebait is now popping up on this site.
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saxonww7 months ago
I wonder if they bought these on purpose, or if the monitors were provided by their employer. That looks like an office.<p>It&#x27;s hard to sympathize with someone buying one of these in 2024 and then being outraged that it wants to do ad tracking. &#x27;Smart&#x27; monitors are so easy to avoid right now, they are all clearly marketed as such and it&#x27;s still the case that premium &#x27;dumb&#x27; monitors are available in every category.