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A return to hand-written notes by learning to read and write

595 pointsby mfiguiere7 months ago

27 comments

imoverclocked7 months ago
I recently purchased a small refrigerator whiteboard and it&#x27;s been really amazing with the combination of my iPhone&#x27;s ability to take a picture of my handwriting (script or cursive) and copy&#x2F;pasta into a text. It&#x27;s not always perfect (nor is my handwriting!) but it&#x27;s good enough to just replace a character or two and hit send.<p>This really tickles a bunch of things for me:<p>1) I am not sending a whole image (it&#x27;s efficient)<p>2) I don&#x27;t have to type&#x2F;swipe at all (I&#x27;m not looking at a screen)<p>3) My s&#x2F;o has easy access to the list at all times (it&#x27;s not in a cloud)<p>4) It requires no power to update&#x2F;maintain (markers last a long time)<p>5) It just feels so natural to grab a marker and write on the fridge when I exhaust something in that same fridge.
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abdullahkhalids7 months ago
This is very cool. Here is interesting application of something like this. My handwriting is pretty bad, and worse still when writing fast. When I am teaching, a lot of what I write is worse than I would like it to be.<p>I could teach a system like this my very slow neat handwriting. And then as I write on my whiteboard while teaching, it replaces my quick bad handwriting with the neater handwriting.
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thimabi7 months ago
From the title, I naively assumed this article would be about people relearning to make legible&#x2F;beautiful handwritten notes after losing this ability. That is something I’m currently struggling with after many years of too much typing and not as much handwriting.<p>Google’s actual research does help people like me, by making our notes less awful digitally. But I’d love not to be dependent on tech innovations to make my handwriting better.
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emporas7 months ago
I tried to use tesseract for OCR, 10 years ago, it recognized English good enough. tesseract was also developed by Google if I am not mistaken, but open source.<p>I tried to use it then, for non English language, for Greek, and it was very bad.<p>Happy to see some good OCR research based on transformers.
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WhatsName7 months ago
What is currently state-of-the-art when it comes to detetcting handwriting from photos?<p>Tracing strokes is nice but I would be more interested in converting my handtaken notes to markdown.
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scrivanodev7 months ago
Very interesting experiment. I&#x27;ve been working on a handwriting application [0] for the past couple of years and incorporating the ability to take a picture to convert it into digital ink would be really nice.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scrivanolabs.github.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scrivanolabs.github.io</a>
aiisahik7 months ago
Can it read the scribble of my doctor? If so this is groundbreaking in the medical data entry space.
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brainzap7 months ago
It was a scary moment when Apple Notes corrected my writing in my own hand writing.
pjmlp7 months ago
I still look forward to have programming environments on tablets that are able to use pen input, instead of forcing us to carry a bluetooth keyboard.<p>Apparently not something that anyone cares as business opportunity, because most likely most folks wouldn&#x27;t pay for it, sadly.
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vintermann7 months ago
A model that could turn &quot;offline&quot; handwriting (the ink on the page) into &quot;online&quot; (order and timing of the strokes) I think could be really useful for a historical HTR pipeline... but ultimately, we need end to end.<p>Why is historical HTR so neglected in all multi-task model evaluation benchmarks? There are millions of un-indexed handwritten historical documents which could give us a so much better understanding of our recent past. For that matter, it could give <i>models</i> much better understanding of our recent past.
albert_e7 months ago
Can we replace &#x2F; augment the keyboard with a white (or marked) paper to write on ... that is in view of a camera that has real time OCR<p>Feels like it will be a good addition to input devices
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henning7 months ago
Can this be used to create deepfake forged signatures&#x2F;handwriting?
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Pamar7 months ago
Eric Hebborn (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eric_Hebborn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eric_Hebborn</a>) wrote &quot;Italico per Italiani&quot; (available in Italian only, alas <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.co.uk&#x2F;Italico-italiani-moderno-trattato-calligrafia&#x2F;dp&#x2F;8894272273" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.co.uk&#x2F;Italico-italiani-moderno-trattato-c...</a>) as a textbook&#x2F;manual to improve day-to-day, practical calligraphy. Maybe there is something similar in other languages too...
honeybadger17 months ago
i still write notes daily and already this year have finished 4 notebooks...however, things i need to review are typed, i write to keep things in my mind as they are being discussed...example, if i encountered an error while reviewing a program execution i would write it down &quot;encountered error during attempt to do x&quot; but i would also type it in my notes in vastly more detail with screenshots and other points...handwriting to me is almost like tagging it in my mind so i just don&#x27;t forget that it happened.
fredgrott7 months ago
Its not the writing PART!<p>It is the non automation part!<p>The experiment you can do to verify my point:<p>1. Write code by hand in plain text editor.....<p>What you notice....programming syntax and knowledge becomes easier to retain and re-learn.<p>No joke I do this several times a week.
nxobject7 months ago
As a lay reader, it&#x27;s fascinating to see how much oomph we&#x27;re getting out of LLMs on non-language-related tasks by figuring out clever encodings&#x2F;linearizations.
no-reply7 months ago
This is very interesting. I had this idea of imitating human handwriting in my bucket of todos for machine learning models, but never got to it. I guess we aren&#x27;t far from it.
poulpy1237 months ago
I&#x27;m wondering how well it would work with my crappy writing and the fact I write some letters revere from normal
jheriko7 months ago
seems overkill... for a bunch of reasons tbh. I guess the golden sledgehammer is just too tempting.<p>taking photos of notes is a weird compromise that nobody really wants... we need better tools not better post processing
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moatmoat7 months ago
such an exciting research project! I can imagine the impact this could have on education, e.g. handwriting notes of teachers in digital copies; or even preserve old documents in their digital counterpart
Evidlo7 months ago
Can this work on low-power devices like note-taking tablets?
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8n4vidtmkvmk7 months ago
Can I just get good OCR for handwritten text? The last model that claimed to be &quot;the best&quot; was atrocious, only worked on PDFs of papers. ChatGPT is pretty decent but I was hoping for an offline, tailored solution
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bilekas7 months ago
&gt; We present a model to convert photos of handwriting into a digital format that reproduces component pen strokes, without the need for specialized equipment.<p>Call my a cynic but this feels like a free way for Google to pull more data for training.
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anshumankmr7 months ago
finally, I will be able to read my doctor&#x27;s prescriptions.
llm_trw7 months ago
Now I&#x27;m wondering if they can use a similar architecture to derender paintings. It would the quite something to have a stroke perfect recreation of the Mona Lisa drawn by a modified pen plotter.
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PeterStuer7 months ago
Tbh my handwriting is write only. Through decades of computer use it has deteriorated to the point were it is illegible even to myself.<p>Still. I will always be notetaking (and doodling) during meetings as it helps me order my thoughts.
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backtoyoujim7 months ago
I spent a few years doing this without google.<p>I suggest it, and I suggest it without google.
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