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Ask HN: What would you preserve if the internet were to go down tomorrow?

259 pointsby gooob7 months ago
thought experiment: if the internet were to go down tomorrow for an indefinite period, what content would you most want to download and preserve?

108 comments

runjake7 months ago
I’m already doing this, but:<p>- All of Wikipedia English<p>- Download as many LLM models and the latest version of Ollama.app and all its dependencies.<p>- Make a list of my favorite music artists and torrent every album I can.<p>- Open my podcast app and download every starred episode (I have a ton of those that I listen to repeatedly).<p>- Torrent and libgen every tech book I value. Then, grab large collections of fiction EPUBs.<p>- Download every US Army field manual I can get my hands on, especially the Special Operations Medic manual, which is gold for civilian use in tough times.<p>- Download every radio frequency list I can for my area of the country.<p>- Download digital copies of The Encyclopedia of Country Living by Carla Emory, Where There Is No Doctor, and Where There Us No Dentist.<p>I already have paper versions of almost all of these but it’s handy to have easily-reproducible and far more portable digital copies.
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jpc07 months ago
Define internet here.<p>Having recently had a week long internet outage I can say quite confidently, nothing really.<p>The things that caused me massive anxiety during that outage was things that are real time.<p>No communication, since all my communication is through VOIP services of some sort, even mobile calls might be down depending on how you define internet.<p>And no banking at all, my bank doesn&#x27;t even have physical branches and most banks in my country have gone that way, even going to a physical branch for one of the larger incumbent banks they just put you on a call with their call center, they cannot help you locally. The tellers and just fancy ATMs and they charge you a premium to use them instead of the ATM outside. If you thing that wont be an issue, well the internet is down, that local branch is useless.<p>There&#x27;s still many cash based business so that&#x27;s less of an issue for me but we will definitely have pandemic level panic again. I mean during the pandemic people bought all the toilet paper here, not the food but the toilet paper...<p>Online media will be the least of your problems and large swaths of that information is available and backed up at libraries around the world. Likewise if only the network is down the servers still exist so the data didn&#x27;t go away.<p>Also if Y2K taught us anything is that we will solve the problem relatively quickly and even if what we currently know as the internet fails a different form of the internet will be back up soon enough.
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LeoPanthera7 months ago
I have an interest in historical television, and YouTube has become the default location for other collectors to upload rips of VHS tapes and other formats of captured broadcasts.<p>So a few years ago I started up a server that slowly (so as not to annoy any YouTube rate limits) downloaded copies of every video from channels I enjoy. I also threw in a few &quot;normal&quot; YouTube channels that I just happen to like.<p>Today it&#x27;s archived over 7500 videos and it&#x27;s still rolling along.
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pryelluw7 months ago
I went through this already. Lived through a category 5 hurricane that took out the power grid, and antennas (among many other key infrastructure).<p>I downloaded as much documentation about the technology I relied on as possible. Ma pages, cloning repos, saving websites as HTML, etc. My goal was to have everything I needed in case I had to build my own internet again. Even if it was like cubas version that uses thumb drive based networking.<p>It worked for the most part. The one downside was having to ration my electricity usage as it was generated by a generator and fuel was not easy to come by.<p>This taught me that any kind of network requires a robust electrical grid. So, I’d install solar panels with batteries, a backup generator, some wind turbines, and then work on downloading all the documentation needed to make the network work.
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Jupe7 months ago
Apologies, but this strikes me as a rather silly question. What I would keep in the event of a prolonged network outage would be of minimal significance.<p>What I&#x27;d really be concerned about would be our modern society. Purchasing food, water, fuel, clothes and other necessities would be near impossible. Supply chains would not just have problems, but literally fall apart. Money would stop moving.<p>If anything is &quot;too big to fail&quot; it would be the internet.
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gloosx7 months ago
If globally internet goes does tomorrow the only thing we need to preserve is Networking For Dummies book. In exactly seven days we would have local networks restored with all the content imaginable travelling through gigabit channels between peers.<p>If all computers go down and all cables burn to ashes simultaneously then it&#x27;s maybe a good idea to preserve RISC-V For Dummies and Cable-making For Dummies as well.
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a21287 months ago
A few years ago I was concerned of this being a genuine possibility (at least for a few months) due to regional conflicts, so I prepared the following on some SD cards and flash drives:<p>* Offline copies of Wikipedia, Stack Overflow and some others using Kiwix<p>* Arch Linux iso and mirror of some packages for installing a new system<p>* Godot Engine along with game assets shamefully stolen from hl2, so I can have some creative outlet, or make training sims if things got so bad<p>* Hours of videos and songs I like<p>Today I would probably include Llama or other LLMs.<p>It&#x27;s unfortunate to see big companies pushing for an online-only world. Windows 11 requiring Internet access to install, YouTube restricting yt-dlp and YouTube Premium downloaded videos only being playable if the app was able to ping YouTube servers in the past few days. It really feels like technology is regressing, we are creating new problems for ourselves for no good reason. But I guess it&#x27;s fine when all of the company offices are in rich Western countries with fast and stable internet access.
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elashri7 months ago
Wikipedia, Sci-hub, Anna&#x27;s archive and Library Genesis. This is the sites that contains a significant part of humanity knowledge that will be needed.
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LinuxBender7 months ago
<i>thought experiment: if the internet were to go down tomorrow for an indefinite period, what content would you most want to download and preserve?</i><p>Music that I do not already have on CD. Videos that contain useful knowledge on DIY medical procedures, DIY home repair and assorted other DIY knowledge. I archive this stuff already. That&#x27;s about it really. I try to avoid any dependency on the internet or <i>smart</i> phones given the commercial internet did not exist for a big part of my life.
Johnny5557 months ago
I&#x27;m surprised nobody said &quot;porn&quot; given how much traffic those sites drive -- is offline porn still easy to find? Last time I looked for offline porn, it was at the local video rental store in the back room section that said &quot;Adults only&quot;, but now those stores are long gone.<p>Are those &quot;Lingerie and Adult Toys&quot; stores on the outskirts of town filled with DVD&#x27;s and magazines?
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overu5897 months ago
I have downloaded nearly 2TB in archives from the interweb, just in case the whole civilization thing were to “go down tomorrow.”<p>If you would like to begin preparing for your tomorrows, this is a good place to start: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;the-eye.eu&#x2F;public&#x2F;Books&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;the-eye.eu&#x2F;public&#x2F;Books&#x2F;</a>
sebbu7 months ago
I don&#x27;t think I saw OpenStreetMaps in the lists provided by various people in this thread. I rely on GPS a lot, and having a local one would help greatly (preferably on phone, but still).<p>Also, OpenLibrary, AniDB &#x2F; Anilist &#x2F; Anime-Planet &#x2F; GoodReads &#x2F; IMDB &#x2F; jeuxvideo.com &#x2F; Last.fm &#x2F; LibraryThing &#x2F; MangaUpdates &#x2F; MyAnimeList &#x2F; MyDramaList &#x2F; NovelUpdates &#x2F; Shikimori &#x2F; TheTVDB &#x2F; WLNUpdates (databases of various entertainment stuff).<p>Then I can look in the GPS where to find them.
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delegate6 months ago
For a global catastrophe situation (WW3, asteroid) with worst case scenario consequences, here&#x27;s what comes to mind:<p>- bootable linux usb drives which can be inserted into any PC.<p>- archives of programming languages - the source code for the language as well as all the libraries. Eg. mvn, npm, cargo, pip, etc.<p>- archive of &#x27;important&#x27; projects on Github<p>Ideally, you should be able to boot from USB and compile any application without internet.<p>- Maps (including trails)<p>- Growing food - agriculture, raising animals, etc<p>- Medicine, chemistry, biology, pharmacology books&#x2F;videos&#x2F;etc<p>- Educational programs (like Khan Academy)<p>- AI models and all the dependencies required to run them offline (eg. GPU drivers, etc).<p>This archive would be quite clumsy if it came as just a bunch of zip files, so a search index for all this content would be of great help.<p>I&#x27;ve been long thinking about working on this Archive.. I believe there would be enough people willing to purchase it just for archival purposes.<p>It would come in handy if we were to travel to other planets too !<p>Hit me up if you think this is worth working on, I&#x27;d happily join&#x2F;lead such an effort.
pxc7 months ago
In just one day?? Geez.<p>Wikipedia in my language.<p>Music and movies that are important to me that I only access via streaming. Maybe a few TV shows in SD.<p>A giant bundle of ebooks is I can find one (e.g., in a public torrent).<p>Open-source ecology.<p>-----<p>The things I&#x27;d really want archived but that there probably wouldn&#x27;t be time to archive in such a short period without already having mostly-complete offline copies:<p><pre><code> - Wikipedia (in all languages) - Internet Archive - GNU projects and docs - Apache projects and docs - Nix, Nixpkgs and docs - as many books as possible regardless of source (e.g., LibGen) - as much music as possible regardless of source - everything public on GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket, SourceHut, Codeberg - all KDE source code and docs - maybe video content (in SD only) based on some coarse filter like whether a movie is in the Library of Congress - maybe archives of some popular forums and forum platforms like Reddit, StackOverflow, important Discourse instances - various protocols and standards docs?</code></pre>
gmuslera7 months ago
The devil is in the details.<p>It would be just the global internet? What would want to have in our local (continent, country, city, home, etc) internet provided that I have enough resources? The balkanization of Internet is still in the menu.<p>Or it may be some global event disabling all computers, like a cosmic EMP?<p>There are several “easy” things to download and have usable somehow. Wikipedia used to have available as download copy of the database. Google still have takeout for all my things that it have stored. A lot of the public code in GitHub or other public repositories are easy to download.
robin_reala7 months ago
I produce books[1] for Standard Ebooks.[2] I’ve got a fifty-long list of books-to-do-at some point, so grabbing transcriptions from Gutenberg and scans from archive.org for each would keep me busy for a long time, presumably long enough for the internet to heal whatever state it’s got itself into.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.robinwhittleton.com&#x2F;books&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.robinwhittleton.com&#x2F;books&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;standardebooks.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;standardebooks.org&#x2F;</a>
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motohagiography7 months ago
4chan, reddit, and HN because they were humanity&#x27;s only honest repositories. linkedin might be useful as our species&#x27; first attempt to create a simulation and to generate a a set of things people in an economy do.<p>we could probably rebuild civilization just from 3blue1brown.
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defanor7 months ago
I do store and update backups of public information regularly, since losing access to much of the Internet completely is not such a remote possibility here; many resources are blocked already, both proxying services and protocols are being blocked as well. Storing those backups together with personal data backups.<p>The things I store are those that seem valuable and information-dense, the kinds that I would be able to use in a relatively prolonged isolation. Storage space is limited, and redundancy is important for backups, so more copies of important information are preferable, to some extent, over added less important information. That is, one may consider tiered backups.<p>Wikipedia and Project Gutenberg, perhaps as OpenZIM archives (for Kiwix, making them more readily accessible), look like good starting points, along with other Wikimedia projects (e.g., Wikisource, Wiktionary; also available as OpenZIM archives). A music collection is a part of my personal backups. Then there are textbooks: OpenStax provides good ones under the CC BY license, LibreTexts books are of variable quality, but also worthwhile to look into, while WikiBooks are mostly disappointing. Then one may consider copyright-infringing book libraries, if one is fine with those. A few hundred gibibytes seem sufficient for a decent stockpile, including a good chunk of human knowledge, and providing plenty to do alone (read and study, that is).<p>Textbooks could be much more lightweight if their sources (e.g., in LaTeX) were provided, rather than PDFs, but unfortunately even for those under permissive licenses, usually only PDFs are available, which hinders both printing (as another form of backups) and regular digital data storage.<p>I expect the government will block software repositories among the last ones, so not backing up those yet, but mirroring, say, Debian archive (including sources) may be a good idea for such a situation, or when preparing for the Internet to go down.<p>If one has a lot of extra storage available, other easily available large data dumps to consider are Common Crawl, arXiv bulk data downloads, complete OSM data, huge copyright-infringing libraries, and videos: plenty of nice YouTube channels and TV series.
bearjaws7 months ago
llama 3.1 405b - You get a massive wealth of knowledge that effectively can act as your Google.<p>Open Street Maps - definitely detailed North America + planet for good measure<p>deepseek-coder-v2 236b - Great coding assistant<p>llama 3.1 70b - Much more practical to run<p>My Google Photos since I have lots of good memorries on there.
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imoverclocked7 months ago
More than downloading a bunch of information, I would also think about hoarding computers that might last a long time if taken care of... along with a durable power source that doesn&#x27;t require fossil fuels. (eg: This potentially includes gasification based generators)<p>For the internet to &quot;go down for an indefinite period&quot; there would need to be some pretty big changes to our current world. The reason it &quot;goes down&quot; also matters a lot.<p>1) Political reasons (eg: whomever is in power wants to control information flow)<p>This will likely mean that certain kinds of information can still flow because we don&#x27;t want to crash the entire economy.<p>In this case, I would want all of the information I could get my hands on about known history. This includes previous regimes and how they ultimately played out.<p>2) Geo-political (some other country bans your access to their resources)<p>This is a harder case to enforce without complete isolation ... but theoretically possible.<p>In this case, technical howtos are still useful as you can probably still get modern supplies. Depending on what my country produces, I would probably want to get all information about those processes as I could. Also, if my country doesn&#x27;t produce a lot of food, information on what can be grown locally would be helpful... along with ways to protect it from nature.<p>3) Global catastrophe (plague&#x2F;virus&#x2F;nuclear winter&#x2F;etc...)<p>Maybe enough of the internet is just &quot;lost&quot; and the technical means to resurrect it has also disappeared.<p>At this point, you need to think about being completely self-sufficient. ie: Grow your own food, make your own tools, protect yourself from animals and people. It would be helpful to have some tools at the start for this. Maybe even just basic gardening tools and a greenhouse ... and whatever form of protection makes the most sense to you. Find some land that can sustain you; Leftover city supplies will likely disappear very fast.<p>4) All of the above, simultaneously.<p>It&#x27;s time to just get a Bible and start praying. Maybe a bunker, too. Survival will likely be a lot of luck and a lot of cunning.
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mid-kid7 months ago
a full copy of the slackware source code: fits in 10gb, contains a semi-curated set of applications and utilities for nearly any purpose, including their documentation, without trying to include <i>everything</i>. I throw this on any system I want to forget about, and I rarely need to add any additional software.
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tiznow7 months ago
Basically every historical&#x2F;political analysis of turmoil every publically available US Army pdf I can find.
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karel-3d6 months ago
Do you think preserve for future historians, or for my immediate use in an apocalypse?<p>For historians - Wikipedia and YouTube.<p>For my use? Google Maps (or actually Mapy.cz, local Czech map provider data). I think it might get useful when hunting for zombies.
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fatih-erikli-cg7 months ago
Nothing if my favorite programming language is installed in my pc. I make the computer fun for myself. Internet doesnt bring anything.
animuchan7 months ago
First thing that comes to mind is the entirety of 3blue1brown, it&#x27;s brilliant.<p>I also like the opposite thought experiment, turns out I have so much of the Internet that I&#x27;d love to never come back online. The whole shitcoin scene, poof, gone.
fsflover7 months ago
This is a good question and the same one, which Archive Team is trying to answer: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41141349">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41141349</a>
Yawrehto6 months ago
There are a few categories here, ranked in rough order of how much I want them between and within categories, assuming infinite storage space and the ability to read the format that it&#x27;s in.<p>Knowledge&#x2F;Entertainment: A huge subset of LibGen&#x2F;Anna&#x27;s Archive. Wikipedia. Survival guides. Tons of websites, especially smaller ones that might not get preserved. I think the NYTimes will be fine, but random indie websites, not so much. Lots of music. Project Gutenberg and swaths of the Online Books Page listed items. Videos, and of course VLC (if it&#x27;s not already downloaded). Various coding things (I, I assume unusually for HN, am not a programmer and don&#x27;t know any programming languages, might as well learn to code.) Minecraft or a knockoff, on the off chance I somehow get bored.<p>Creating: LibreOffice (if it&#x27;s not already installed). If it works offline, the Inspiral app, because spirographs make everything better. Gimp, Inkscape, Krita.<p>Personal: Records of as much of my digital life as I can get. So comments, posts, etc. I want to be able to look back at who I was.<p>Organization: Calibre (again, assuming it&#x27;s not installed). Obsidian.
cableshaft6 months ago
I got most of what I need on hard drives already. Have plenty of movies and music and games, I keep a copy of everything in Dropbox on each computer, and I don’t need to download anything special to work on game development in Monogame or Love2d, they’re pretty low on dependencies (that I can’t just copy from other existing projects).<p>And since I use git, even my version control stays nice and local.<p>Main things I would need to make an offline version of, offhand, are my GitHub Issues list, as that’s online only right now and where I track what I’m doing on my games, some documentation for Love2d and Monogame would be nice, and our recipes.<p>We have a few printouts for some recipes, but most are linked in a Google Sheets excel file.
tmtvl7 months ago
A bunch of content currently on YouTube: the Perl conference, European Lisp Symposium, Strange Loop, Peter Hadfield&#x27;s (Potholer54) videos,...<p>Most written content I am interested in I already have backed up (for example PDFs of various Wikipedia articles).<p>Maybe also the latest DVD release of Tumbleweed in case I have use for it.
thuruv6 months ago
This thread has an utmost importance among other few HN threads and I couldn&#x27;t grasp why this hasn&#x27;t gained much traction yet. Our focus should be developing tools that supports the sharing&#x2F;communication of the people&#x2F;repositories of information spread across multiple places and accessible (the very meaning of internet, since www days). Totally worth noting the internet is &quot;Too big to fail&quot; yet the purpose should not be diverging on how to not only restore but to connect when&#x2F;if it fails to.
wafflemaker7 months ago
pr0n, and make a lot of money selling it!
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orionblastar7 months ago
I already downloaded collections of various ROMs for use in emulators along with the emulators to use them. These ROMs don&#x27;t need the Internet and have no DRM in the emulators.<p>My Steam collection won&#x27;t work because it needs the Internet and DRM to work.
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GTP6 months ago
I won&#x27;t contribute links to resouces, as in this thread there are many users that have listed everything I would have, plus more. I&#x27;ll just recommend the Kiwix app[0], which is a convenient way of downloading many of the resources suggested by others, and keep those handy. That is, assuming you have a way of keeping your smartphone charged ;)<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=org.kiwix.kiwi...</a>
anonzzzies6 months ago
My github. I like tinkering with software and hardware. I have enough old (70s) to new (last week) hardware, docs and software to get my own village internet going.<p>Ah, and currently I would also preserve some current LLama to tinker with.
lesostep6 months ago
I already preserved the single most important pdf I have: the postWW2 book listing all wild edible plants in the area I live in. With notations and pictures!
nickpsecurity7 months ago
BibleHub.com, GotQuestions.org, and BiblicalTraining.org for spiritual truth.<p>Educational resources for training people in skills they’ll need. Everything from K-12 to eHow.<p>Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britannica to preserve our knowledge. Specialist ones like the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and Mayo Clinic, too.<p>Source code for major OSS like Linux, OpenOffice, etc. Hardware designs, too. Especially old-school stuff on primitive fabs or hand-wired. We’ll be covered both ways.<p>I think we can remake everything else from scratch using the prior lessons learned.
rossdavidh7 months ago
Well most of YouTube I can easily do without, but there are a lot of good demonstrations of crafts and repairs on there that are way easier to understand than a text explanation of the same thing. If &quot;indefinite&quot; means &quot;it may be that society&#x27;s ability to send you stuff and fix what you have goes away for a while&quot;, I would want an archive of a lot of that. But it&#x27;s &lt;1% of the YT content, so I&#x27;m not sure if there&#x27;s a good way to filter for just that.
aa-jv6 months ago
If the Internet went down tomorrow, I&#x27;d finally have time to organize the 90,000+ .PDF files I have collected over 3 decades, of every single web article I&#x27;ve read and printed to .PDF for later reading&#x2F;reference.<p>I&#x27;d probably write some tools to organize it all, and end up re-creating most of the good content of the sites I like to visit.<p>After this, I&#x27;d get to the 8 Terabyte NAS I&#x27;ve had tucked away, with all the crap I&#x27;ve ever downloaded since 1993. :P
Quinzel6 months ago
Gwern.net - I don’t read it everyday or anything but there’s some real snippets of literary gold in amongst that guys prolific generation of texts.
notorandit7 months ago
The GNU project as a whole and Linux kernel. And maybe RISC-V stuff.
Havoc7 months ago
Enough to ensure I can get a basic homelab started and all the tech I need to deploy an LLM.<p>Imperfect as they are they’re an incredibly dense summary of the internet.<p>And then duplicate all the repos plus maybe a couple of those old school multi dvd Ubuntu editions intended for offline. Just in case I missed something like a dev essentials package. Copies of the top handful of python packages would also be grand<p>Chances of missing something crucial is sky high though so this would need a dry run
signaru7 months ago
My personal&#x2F;work files for which the physical media of origin no longer exists. Source codes, mine and of others that I care about. Compilers. Lots of books and Wikipedia.
1vuio0pswjnm76 months ago
The physical addresses of data&#x2F;code sources to use for sneakernet transfers while the internet is down.<p>It would also be nice to download the &quot;card catalog&quot; of the local library for offline use at home, if that was possible.<p>Truth is, &quot;tomorrow&quot; is not enough advance notice for me to save much. Need to be proactive, i.e., &quot;What have I already preserved if the internet went down tomorrow&quot;.
Hammad_khaan6 months ago
If the internet disappeared tomorrow, I’d save Alex Hormozi’s sales advice. His content on sales is like a survival kit—he emphasizes that mastering sales is a skill that keeps you secure no matter what. As they say, if you know how to sell, you’ll never go hungry.
paulcole7 months ago
None of it. If the Internet is down, society is fucked to the point that archiving a few websites isn’t going to make a lick of difference.
Titan21897 months ago
I really hope this is just a thought experiment and not a &#x27;hint hint&#x27; by someone who knows more about what will happen in 2 days after the US 2024 presidential election.<p>We were discussing in my office today how there might be widespread protests about the election result soon.<p>Who knows how crazy people get, a few dedicated pissed people in a few key places could be quite disastrous.
wanderingmind6 months ago
Survival youtube videos, ranging from growing crops, to building a home, building a boat, predicting weather, to fixing guns
WantonQuantum7 months ago
I&#x27;m surprised no one has said Wikipedia yet.
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vitiral6 months ago
This is my project: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;civboot.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;civboot.org</a>
GianFabien7 months ago
MDN Plus. For some weird reason we can&#x27;t get the offline version in Australia, but it is available in New Zealand.
INTPenis7 months ago
How much would it hurt if you lost all your family photos in one day?<p>And how much would a solution be worth to you?<p>That&#x27;s why I have a consumer NAS at home where I backup all my most precious media. Simply because I&#x27;ve worked in IT for 20 years so I believe more in off-site backups than I do in the reliability of IT services.
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epirogov7 months ago
opensuse disk to restore civilisation :D
praving57 months ago
I have literally zero dependency on the Internet. Everything I value (family and event photos, music, books (hard copies), school report cards, ID cards, etc.) is already with me in hard copies or hard drive. If Internet were to go down, I believe, I will breathe happily!!
dgellow7 months ago
MSDN, I feel it would be a great time to finally do all the side projects I ever wanted, and lots of them are related to windows APIs :) Not to save it for future generation, just for myself.<p>Also, a bunch of dev related git repos, such as zig, rust, microsft&#x2F;stl, python
whartung7 months ago
I guess the hot tip is to dig out the O&#x27;Reilly UUCP and Netnews book, and see if any of the phone modems still work. MacOS still ships with uucico and uucp.<p>Mind, it probably wouldn&#x27;t work for me, I have fiber to my house, no POTS. I dunno if the old 56K modems work or not.
jareklupinski7 months ago
as many AI models as i can get my hands on, to generate content for me<p>who knows how long the net goes down for, and if i try to just save what exists, it would run out after _some_ time (maybe not my time, but when unknown time horizons are probable, a generator &gt; a pile, imo)
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dusted6 months ago
Just the things I already keep updated local mirrors of.<p>It&#x27;s less than 100 TiB, and I think that if the Internet went away right now, I&#x27;d be okay information&#x2F;entertainment wise for the rest of my life.
openrisk6 months ago
Since everybody else would try to preserve what is <i>really important</i>, I would go for a random sample. So that future archeologists can form their own opinions about what this era was really about.
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elnatro6 months ago
Im case of a catastrophe, wouldn’t be better to rely on non-tech storage of information? Like books, for example? And if so, what printed books would be better for this purpose? Encyclopedias?
AlienRobot7 months ago
The documentation for all the programming languages and libraries I use, and if possible all forum posts them (and the entirety of stackoverflow).<p>Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley so I can rick roll people on the post-internet era.<p>Newgrounds.
asdz7 months ago
If Internet go down, likely the electricity is out. So likely we need some power source first, maybe I&#x27;ll get solar and batteries first. Then I&#x27;ll get some doomsday movies &#x2F; zombie movies :)
tjbiddle6 months ago
Honestly, I think we&#x27;re at the point now where if the internet went down it&#x27;d cause a pretty heavy collapse of society. I&#x27;d be less worried about having stored content and more worried about not being able to access my money, businesses not being able to operate, friends and family being unable to communicate, being unable to travel back home, etc.<p>It&#x27;d eventually sort itself out to the ways pre-internet, sure - but so much now is built on internet-connected tech, not pre-internet tech.
sickofparadox6 months ago
Very detailed texts on every level of networking, from NICs and LANs to BGP routing so I could bring it back up.
throwaway_4lyfe6 months ago
I&#x27;d look for a document called something like &quot;How To Build A New Internet When The Existing One Has Just Gone Down Indefinitely&quot;.
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nprateem6 months ago
Why don&#x27;t you just come straight out and ask people to raise their hand if they&#x27;re paranoid? Or is this a way to flag people who don&#x27;t know they are?
barryrandall6 months ago
I&#x27;d preserve the arguments against IPv4, SMTP, and BGP.
big-green-man7 months ago
Libgen, Anna&#x27;s archive, xlib and scihub.<p>All OSM data and openaddresses data.
pvaldes7 months ago
Save a frozen copy of current knowledge before the AI starts to corrupt every fact with very convincing fake data. Does not sound totally unreasonable.
kcartlidge6 months ago
&gt; <i>What would you preserve if the internet were to go down tomorrow?</i><p>Nothing. I&#x27;d be too busy celebrating.<p>(Even though I&#x27;d likely be out of work.)
jesterson6 months ago
I am already doing it as internet is pretty much going down.<p>Downloading music, some great movies, books. For other content I have DevonThink database
Tepix7 months ago
There are plenty of wikipedia backups. That would be my first thought. But also i would download some LLMs that i can&#x27;t use right now.
anticorporate7 months ago
Honestly, very little if anything.<p>I would double-check my offline backups of everything I care about (personal files and professional projects, as well as local copies of music and videos), be sure my local maps are up to date for directions, and perhaps grab new videos from a YouTube channels to have some new entertainment in case I wasn&#x27;t able to get anything new for a while.<p>Otherwise, there&#x27;s not much I&#x27;d want. Presumably my local library would still have books, and the radio would still carry news. Most of what I find valuable on the internet are things that refresh in near real-time like message boards and news, or aren&#x27;t really <i>data</i> to be backed up so much as services I use like ordering food or checking my bank balance.<p>Having recently gone through over three weeks of power, internet, and cell service outage with Hurricane Helene, at no point was I tempted to go into town and download me some more internet for use offline.
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79527 months ago
Photos of my family. Lots of comforting audio books and movies. Recipes of simple food for a wide range of ingredients.
more_corn7 months ago
There should probably be a backup of stack overflow, if only because it’d be hard to get it back if it ever goes down.
rsync7 months ago
The diy (home improvement?) stack exchange.
jeff_vader6 months ago
English Wikipedia and some Linux distribution which can be downloaded as a full set of packages + sources.
henriquegogo6 months ago
- Wayback Machine - Common Crawl<p>Basically (almost) the whole internet backup.
theBaba6 months ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zombo.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zombo.com</a><p>- You can do anything at zombo com
the5avage7 months ago
All the papers and books of library genesis
kissgyorgy6 months ago
Wikipedia, GitHub and YouTube should have enough to recover most knowledge about the world today.
486sx337 months ago
Actually nothing. Books, dvds, and blu rays<p>They are important, and slowly being lost to time and produced less and less …
giantg27 months ago
Nothing. Start over from scratch.
RecycledEle6 months ago
Books, how-to videos, and programs that run without an Internet connection.
jonathanMelly6 months ago
human proved to be able to live without Internet using other kinds of nets... It’s just a new situation, a change I bet we can handle...<p>Nothing, let it go down ;-)
throwaway95677 months ago
Friendly reminder that the Internet Archive is accepting donations. In light of recent attacks causing operational issues for the archive, additional funding will likely be well spent:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41854518">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41854518</a>
lynguist6 months ago
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind. I would continue and live my life. I would ride public transportation to go to work, I would go to the library if I want to check something out, I would just be spontaneous instead of preplanning everything online or be influenced by opinions online.
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thot_experiment7 months ago
Warcraft 3, Quake 3. We&#x27;re set.
edsonmedina6 months ago
In all honesty: my sanity
dicjsnw6 months ago
OnlyFans
coding1236 months ago
Just YouTube
garyfirestorm7 months ago
Pypi
Kalanos6 months ago
- Scientific literature<p>- Wikipedia articles<p>- YouTube videos<p>- Google images
revskill6 months ago
Linux kernel 1.0
mythrwy7 months ago
YouTube how-to videos.
latentsea7 months ago
Soft White Underbelly
shafyy7 months ago
No doubt: Wikipedia
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midtake7 months ago
The Debian mirror
nachox9996 months ago
Mr Bean videos
23B17 months ago
Absolutely none of it. I don&#x27;t think we are markedly better off as a species because of it.<p>Yes we&#x27;d lose probably a good chunk of cultural artifacts but 99% of those are transient and will eventually be lost to the sands of time anyway (this is true for nearly every era).<p>Meanwhile the &#x27;culture&#x27; downstream of the internet is vapid, self-centered, packed with rage and perversion, does little to stop human suffering or strife, and is essentially a wealth consolidation and mass surveillance tool for the gentry.<p>That said, I have done this prior to a combat deployment in a faraway land, I loaded a ton of books, wikipedia, and movies&#x2F;TV shows up on an external harddrive.<p>I used it maybe twice and for non-critical stuff. It was eye-opening (and refreshing) how little me, my buddies, or the people we were working with cared about this nonsense, especially upon the realization that it had almost no bearing or impact on who we were or what we were doing.
edanm7 months ago
I mean, it&#x27;s not a practical answer to your question, but I&#x27;d love a backup of YouTube. I think it&#x27;s probably got most of humanity&#x27;s knowledge in there somewhere, in all kinds of forms for all kinds of levels.
pacificleo126 months ago
9gag
analog317 months ago
My bicycle.
codr77 months ago
Real life?
sandwichsphinx7 months ago
The entire library of google scholar
TacticalCoder7 months ago
The Bitcoin blockchain history.
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andrewstuart7 months ago
Nothing.<p>Nothing at all.
hulitu7 months ago
&gt; Ask HN: What would you preserve if the internet were to go down tomorrow?<p>Surveillance. That&#x27;s the main purpose, isn&#x27;t it ? &#x2F;s
oceanplexian7 months ago
Probably shelf stable food, firearms, hard currency like gold and silver. For information the books I already have (Classic literature, engineering references, cook books). Honestly, computers would be the last thing I care about even though it’s both my hobby and my career.<p>I say this because the Internet is so integral to our current society and way of life that it would be like losing access to electricity. Most young people have never lived in a world without Internet access. Electronic payments, logistics, food distribution, etc would all stop functioning. Society is far more fragile than anyone wants to admit and people would panic.