TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

City council faces £216.5M loss over Oracle system debacle

35 pointsby ronyba7 months ago

8 comments

jl67 months ago
&gt; It is set to re-implement an &quot;out of the box&quot; version of the solution after <i>customizations in the first effort</i> disrupted its bank reconciliation system.<p>Root cause.<p>When you buy from an ERP vendor, you are not just buying software, you are buying a logical model of an idealized corporation. If that model doesn&#x27;t reflect your actual organization, you can <i>try</i> to customize the software, but beyond some threshold of mismatch, it&#x27;s easier to change your accounting &amp; control &amp; governance processes to match the software.<p>SAP and Oracle are no different in this respect.
评论 #42039841 未加载
评论 #42039840 未加载
评论 #42040289 未加载
评论 #42039881 未加载
physicsguy7 months ago
Any IT transformation project like this is always hampered by people wanting customisations. Those customisations are usually to support Janet in office A who demands that she damn well isn&#x27;t going to make changes to her workflow that she&#x27;s done since she started in 1995.
评论 #42039851 未加载
评论 #42048492 未加载
djohnston7 months ago
I think the Uk could show some gusto here and implement these systems in-house and open sourced. There’s nothing innovative or unsolved in this domain.
评论 #42039786 未加载
评论 #42039802 未加载
from-nibly7 months ago
I&#x27;m probably expressing this to the wrong crowd but I think a city is too big when it can possibly lose 216m pounds messing around with software. That could have done a lot of good somewhere but it got blown into the wind instead. Think about that the next time you are working extra hard to make retirement. Your city might just take your taxes and throw them away.
bobthepanda7 months ago
I feel like the title could use the name of the city involved (Birmingham, UK)
jmclnx7 months ago
These days for ERP, you should make sure the contract specifies if the cost rises to a specific amount, it is canceled and the vendor refunds 50%.<p>Most of this I blame on the Sales People. They will promise anything to make the sale. Somehow part of the risk should be borne by the vendor.
rightbyte7 months ago
&quot;The cost of the Oracle project increased from an initial estimate of £19 million to a projected cost of £131 million, including the re-implementation.&quot;<p>When something gets 10 times more expensive than anticipated, there is some serious mismanagement and political &#x27;death march&#x27; involved.<p>This longing for &#x27;one system&#x27; is probably the fundamental problem. And these consultant firms with slick salespeople feeding on the procurers&#x27; dreams.
creesch7 months ago
Replacing SAP for Oracle to me feels like replacing one evil for another.<p>Besides the companies themselves constantly upselling you and having idiotic licensing terms. Both are very much the sort of companies with products you only are &quot;able&quot; to implement with extremely expensive outside consultants.
评论 #42042201 未加载