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US regulator rejects bid to boost nuclear power to Amazon data center

23 pointsby WaitWaitWha6 months ago

6 comments

Dylan168076 months ago
&gt; In a 2-1 decision, the FERC found the regional grid operator, PJM Interconnection, failed to prove that the changes to the transmission agreement with Susquehanna power plant were necessary.<p>If the standard is &quot;necessary&quot; then you can shoot down anything you want on a whim. No particular connection or plant is ever necessary.<p>&gt; “Co-location arrangements of the type presented here present an array of complicated, nuanced and multifaceted issues, which collectively could have huge ramifications for both grid reliability and consumer costs,”<p>...and? This is so generic, and you have even more potential for ramifications if the power has to take a less direct route.<p>What&#x27;s the actual meat of the complaint here?
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adrianco6 months ago
I think there are two things that change. One is that Amazon would be controlling output scheduling of part of the the power station rather than the grid operator. The other is that this would be behind the meter for Amazon like rooftop solar, so would be accounted for differently in the annual report.
fred_is_fred6 months ago
Is the issue that this reduces power to the grid, specifically therefore reduces base load power since it’s nuclear? Thereby making the rest of the grid less stable? Presumably Amazon still pays for the electricity.
atomic1286 months ago
The clean, dense, non-intermittent power provided by nuclear reactors is extremely valuable.<p>Unless you are located near a hydroelectric dam, there is really no substitute.<p>The government will not allow the technology companies to &quot;hog&quot; existing reactors.<p>Presumably this will force the technology companies to build their own reactors. Good.<p>I&#x27;ll end with a quote from Yann LeCun (Vice-President, Chief AI Scientist at Meta):<p><pre><code> AI datacenters will be built next to energy production sites that can produce gigawatt-scale, low-cost, low-emission electricity continuously. Basically, next to nuclear power plants. The advantage is that there is no need for expensive and wasteful long-distance distribution infrastructure. Note: Yes, solar and wind are nice and all, but they require lots of land and massive-scale energy storage systems for when there is too little sun and&#x2F;or wind. Neither simple nor cheap. </code></pre> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;ylecun&#x2F;status&#x2F;1837875035270263014" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;ylecun&#x2F;status&#x2F;1837875035270263014</a>
ZeroGravitas6 months ago
Why does it say &quot;boost&quot; in the headline? Wouldn&#x27;t &quot;redirect&quot; be more accurate?
nobodyandproud6 months ago
Tech’s investments in nuclear is the single most compelling argument against solar and renewables being enough to sustain the grid.
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