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Western Digital SSDs and Legacy Macs

28 pointsby Sevan7777 months ago

5 comments

CursedSilicon6 months ago
The Broadco- &quot;ServerWorks&quot; K2 chipsets that power G5 Macs SATA controllers are <i>horrible</i>. I have a half dozen G5 Quads and a Dual G5 Xserve. Getting compatible SSD&#x27;s for them, or even <i>HDD&#x27;s</i> back in the day has been an exercise in frustration and tedium<p>All these machines run SATA I (1.5Gbps). The Sata II and SATA III specifications state that it&#x27;s meant to be backwards compatible and the drive should negotiate down to SATA I speeds (ala 10&#x2F;100&#x2F;1000 Ethernet)<p>For HDD&#x27;s they used to have one of the jumper pins you could set to &quot;force 1.5Gbps mode&quot; at least on W.D drives at the time. SSD&#x27;s of course however are meant to be <i>fast</i> and in theory do this all in software. In practice with the K2 controller though they just...tend to break!<p>I don&#x27;t blame the SSD makers of course. Why would they test their SSD&#x27;s in 20~ year old machines? (or even if they do, knowing to make appropriate concessions for PowerPC macs, which are themselves known to be extremely unreliable anyway!)<p>For extra fun I added an NVME drive to one of my G5 Quad machines via a PCI-E adapter. The boot process goes OpenFirmware (ROM) --&gt; GRUB2 ---&gt; Linux Kernel + initrams on SSD with root=&#x2F;dev&#x2F;nvme0n1p1 set<p>Even with this set up it takes <i>five real world seconds</i> for the K2 controller to report back the single device (of just TWO it can have plugged in!) to the linux kernel. With this driver disabled or moved to a module the kernel boot process takes approximately 3 seconds instead of 8 or 9<p>The K2 controllers are <i>awful</i> and I am glad they died quietly
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vitus6 months ago
If anyone&#x27;s curious, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;08vtB4n.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;08vtB4n.png</a> was my initial attempt to recover the garbled screenshot at the end of the post, although I did end up throwing away the vast majority of the pixels. It&#x27;s at least vaguely recognizable as an OSX screenshot?
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justinclift6 months ago
WD has all kinds of weird issues with their SSDs. Some pretty major, and it&#x27;s really hit or miss whether any particular one will be completely problem free or be a total nightmare. :(<p>• <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;openzfs&#x2F;zfs&#x2F;discussions&#x2F;14793">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;openzfs&#x2F;zfs&#x2F;discussions&#x2F;14793</a><p>Best to avoid them at all costs.
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shrubble6 months ago
I have definitely had issues even with Intel based systems that were Sata-1 in working with Sata-2 drives; I think that being a first generation chipset it was not well supported in terms of anomalies that showed up with how the specification was implemented by different vendors.
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1over1376 months ago
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