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How to self-host all of Bluesky except the AppView (for now)

140 pointsby icy6 months ago

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zzyzxd6 months ago
Selfhosting is my hobby but I am also an SRE. I am hesitant to do this because the instruction is &quot;too easy&quot; -- &quot;Simply open your firewall, download and run this installer.sh with sudo on your server and that&#x27;s it!&quot;[1].<p>How do I secure the webserver and the data? Where is the data on my disk? How to backup and restore? High availability?<p>There might be detailed documentation somewhere, or I can even read the code. But these are the important things an open source software should tell its users right off the bat.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;bluesky-social&#x2F;pds&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;README.md">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;bluesky-social&#x2F;pds&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;README.md</a>
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sureglymop6 months ago
It&#x27;s great that you wrote this up!<p>One thing I have found with many open source&#x2F;selfhostable projects is just how much running them yourself can vary. It can go from a simple compose file with everything included to having to dig for obscure services and piece together how they all form the whole.<p>For example, I recently looked into self hosting Zotero. It is so under documented and complex that there is almost no way one could self host that (even for just one user) without that being ones job. So one needs to make a distinction between something being open source and being feasible to use&#x2F;maintain.<p>In the end I gave up with Zotero. Even though it could have replaced Obsidian Notes, Calibre and Syncthing all at once for me.
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jchw6 months ago
I appreciate this effort. I&#x27;ve definitely been interested in how plausible it would be to, today, run another instance of the Bluesky AppView, mainly because AT proto seems promising, but to really meet it&#x27;s full potential it needs independent operators with different sensibilities.<p>I&#x27;ve been thinking a lot about the relay, though. 4.5 terabytes is, well... A lot, to say the least. If Bluesky grows 100x larger, running a relay will become pretty insanely expensive. I guess if the Bluesky organization remains fairly neutral about the relay part, it&#x27;s not a huge deal, but:<p>- It always eventually becomes hard to stay neutral. Eventually someone will get mad at something going through your network that isn&#x27;t just obvious network abuse like SPAM.<p>- It seems like drinking from the firehouse <i>itself</i> will eventually become expensive. Will it be possible for something this high bandwidth to remain freely-accessible?
98codes6 months ago
This is all academic for me until Bluesky gets the functionality to get an account back onto their main network, for DR if not peace of mind that an &quot;undo&quot; is possible.
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__justplaying6 months ago
author here, should you have questions!
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ck26 months ago
I found it interesting it&#x27;s almost impossible, very difficult to get real Bluesky stats<p>This site tries but has limits:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.jazco.dev&#x2F;stats" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.jazco.dev&#x2F;stats</a><p>They broke 14 million yesterday and it seems to be snowballing now since the election:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;jaz.bsky.social&#x2F;post&#x2F;3laetwhztdk2x" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;jaz.bsky.social&#x2F;post&#x2F;3laetwhztdk2x</a>
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heavensteeth6 months ago
This site is <i>extremely</i> snappy. Good work.
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mdaniel6 months ago
Also, yesterday someone posted[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;frontpage.fyi&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;frontpage.fyi&#x2F;</a> which seems like it&#x27;s predominately Bluesky&#x2F;ATprotocol news but since both of those interest me, if this blog link interests you then so might that link. It logs in with Bsky oauth2 federation<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42081210">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42081210</a>
jazzyjackson6 months ago
Is it feasible to run a bluesky instance &quot;on prem&quot; and &quot;offline&quot; for instance as an airgapped corporate intranet ?
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nisten6 months ago
Is the actual guide just this &lt;400 word thing, or is it all those 15 different links on the post, or only some of them....<p>Does that... bureaucracy of documentation not infuriate anyone else or is it just me. I guess I&#x27;ll try and reset my password to bluesky website, assuming it&#x27;s this .app one, but then it&#x27;s asking me to maybe select a provider ... of my password.<p>Does whoemever made this user experience not have enough emotional intelligence realize how infuriating it is?
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__justplaying6 months ago
How do I ask the mods to swap out the link to the actual post instead of my blog&#x27;s front page?<p>(...also, the title, as the original has the caveat)
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elfprince136 months ago
but I thought that Bluesky wasn&#x27;t meaningfully distributed &#x2F;s
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