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Towards Nyquist Learners

66 pointsby sleepingreset7 months ago

7 comments

ks20487 months ago
Title has a misleading domain name (gwern.net). Link is to a PhD thesis titled &quot;Scaling Laws for Deep Learning&quot; by Jonathan Rosenfeld. Not sure why wasn&#x27;t linked more directly,<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2108.07686" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2108.07686</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;2108.07686#page=85" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;2108.07686#page=85</a>
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svantana7 months ago
I think the basic premise of this paper is wrong. Very few natural signals are bandlimited - if images were, they would be no need to store in high resolution, you could just upsample. Natural spectra tend to be pink (decaying ~3dB&#x2F;octave), which can be explained by the fractal nature of our world (zoom in on details and you find more detail).
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pvillano7 months ago
We&#x27;ve seen band limited CNNs <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nvlabs.github.io&#x2F;stylegan3&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nvlabs.github.io&#x2F;stylegan3&#x2F;</a><p>What would the implementation of a band limited LLM look like?
gwbas1c7 months ago
&gt; In particular, this minimal frequency is twice the bandwitdh of the function.<p>Careful, this is misleading.<p>If the peaks of the frequency align with your samples, you&#x27;ll get the full bandwidth.<p>If the 0-crossings align with your samples, you&#x27;ll miss the frequency.<p>These are why people swear by things like HD audio, SACD&#x2F;DSD, even though &quot;you can&#x27;t hear over 20khz&quot;
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pvillano7 months ago
Wasn&#x27;t there an paper on band limiting generative CNNs, that fixed texture pinning? Basically by blurring the results of the kernel with neighbors, you get rid of all this aliasing?
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woopwoop7 months ago
I don&#x27;t understand what their definition of a band limited function on a manifold is supposed to be.
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puttycat7 months ago
Off topic, this thesis has one of the most concise and straightforward acknowledgments section I saw.