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Show HN: Physically accurate black hole simulation using your iPhone camera

316 pointsby yunyu6 months ago

30 comments

lupsasca6 months ago
Hello! We are Dr. Roman Berens, Prof. Alex Lupsasca, and Trevor Gravely (PhD Candidate) and we are physicists working at Vanderbilt University. We are excited to share Black Hole Vision: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;black-hole-vision&#x2F;id6737292448" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;black-hole-vision&#x2F;id6737292448</a>.<p>Black Hole Vision simulates the gravitational lensing effects of a black hole and applies these effects to the video feeds from an iPhone&#x27;s cameras. The application implements the lensing equations derived from general relativity (see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1910.12881" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1910.12881</a> if you are interested in the details) to create a physically accurate effect.<p>The app can either put a black hole in front of the main camera to show your environment as lensed by a black hole, or it can be used in &quot;selfie&quot; mode with the black hole in front of the front-facing camera to show you a lensed version of yourself.
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bryant6 months ago
Neat. I&#x27;ll probably use it for five minutes, appreciate the math that went into it, and move on. But nevertheless, pretty neat.<p>I say that because there&#x27;s an idea to play with for a v1.1 that would give it staying power for me:<p>Do you have enough processing power on an iPhone to combine this with Augmented Reality? That is to say: can you explore &quot;pinning&quot; a singularity in a fixed region of space so I can essentially walk around it using the phone?<p>Assuming that&#x27;s possible, you could continue evolving this into a very modest revenue generating app (like 2 bucks per year, see where it goes?) by allowing for people to pin singularities, neutron stars, etc. around their world and selectively sharing those with others who pass by. I&#x27;d have fun seeing someone else&#x27;s pinned singularity next to the Washington monument, for instance. Or generally being able to play with gravity effects on light via AR.
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codethief6 months ago
Very nice – if only I could try it! :&#x27;-) Any chance this could be ported to Android, at least for high-end devices with a decent GPU?
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rgovostes6 months ago
I recommend using a different preview screenshot on the App Store page. The first (most important) screenshot is without the effect at all. The use of the galaxy image doesn’t really reflect what it’s like to use the app.
consumer4516 months ago
First thing I wondered is what would happen if I pointed it another screen, with an image like this loaded. I realize that it&#x27;s not realistic due to the z-axis, and field of view, but it&#x27;s pretty fun.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;esahubble.org&#x2F;images&#x2F;heic0609a&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;esahubble.org&#x2F;images&#x2F;heic0609a&#x2F;</a>
spaceisballer6 months ago
Just tried to check it out. First boot it crashed, killed app and tried again and now it won’t open. I’ll try and reinstall and do over. iPhone 16 Pro, iOS 18.1<p>Quick edit- I did exactly that and now it works fine. First boot up before seemed like it got stuck when asking for permission to use the camera.
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lambdadelirium6 months ago
&gt;physically accurate &gt;event horizon doesn&#x27;t appear in my room :(
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gigatexal6 months ago
Instant download for me. I’m a sucker for anything black hole related.
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bossyTeacher6 months ago
Pendatic but can I ask why does this app require 17.5 or later? For reference, the latest iOs version is 18. What specific API is being used to require that version?
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blululu6 months ago
This is awesome. I see that this is GPL and open on GitHub. Thank you for sharing. If you are open to feature requests that I am too lazy and stupid to accomplish on my own, I would appreciate the option to drop the multi camera view and the option to capture a photo. Also plus one to the idea of being able to pin the black hold to a specific orientation so you can see what it looks like to pan around an object adjacent to the black hole.
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ale426 months ago
Did anybody else first think —before seeing the app images— that it was somehow using the camera of the iPhone to simulate the physics of the black hole?
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Waterluvian6 months ago
I wonder if this would be better as a webpage and not an app. It’s something I want to share far and wide for everyone to play with for five minutes. But as an app, most people I send it to won’t go install it.<p>I’m no astrophysicist but it all looks doable with the camera API, canvas API, and WebGL or WebGPU shaders. That actually sounds like a lot of fun.
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mock-possum6 months ago
Does anyone else find it jarring to unexpectedly be shown the selfie camera view? Showing both camera feed thumbnails constantly while using this app is a little odd.<p>Still, kinda fun, reminds me of playing around with different blur &#x2F; liquidify filters in photoshop back in the day.
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febed6 months ago
Not related to the app, but could someone explain how something with huge though finite mass can create a singularity which is a point of infinite density? Can there also be black holes which are just dark stars with intense gravity having a hard surface?
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elashri6 months ago
That seems cool. It would be interested to see a simulation for Kerr-Newman BH. Although I have no idea what would be the best way to see the effects without some sort of perturbation. Not that this is astrophysical BH of course. Just a thought experiment.
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insamniac6 months ago
As above so below. I love how it looks so similar to a colonoscopy.
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floxy6 months ago
Would a person notice red-shifts from the black hole as well?
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xqcgrek26 months ago
As always, wonder what a particular &quot;free&quot; thing is selling and to whom. In this case it&#x27;s something called BHEX, to NASA.
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JBiserkov6 months ago
&gt; Data Not Collected<p>&gt; The developer does not collect any data from this app.<p>Well, duuh, nothing can escape the black hole, not even information!
majgr6 months ago
Is in the middle of black hole zero gravity? Then, is there another event horizon somewhere inside black hole?
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starfleet_bop6 months ago
A bit off topic, but does anyone else get weird nightmares of black holes?
ilrwbwrkhv6 months ago
Oh man this so reminds me of the old iPhone apps which were so epic and so cool
DrStartup6 months ago
So cool! Vision Pro version?
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01HNNWZ0MV43FF6 months ago
Does it use iPhone-specific features or could it work on, e.g., a desktop
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cybenko6 months ago
What happens with the rotating one and a realistic POV?
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hereme8886 months ago
Don&#x27;t aim it at your wife.
aljgz6 months ago
No plans for an Android version?
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neallindsay6 months ago
Another nice feature would be if it could simulate an accretion disk.
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2spaceor-2space6 months ago
Dad
Y_Y6 months ago
This is not a simulation of a black hole, but rather an image filter that emulates one particular effect.
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