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Hynix launches 321-layer NAND

125 pointsby WaitWaitWha6 months ago

11 comments

RicoElectrico6 months ago
What&#x27;s interesting is that these devices don&#x27;t need 321+ litho steps; the vertical layers are all defined with deposition. Lithography step count isn&#x27;t layer dependent it seems.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;ANHzVOiUwGI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;ANHzVOiUwGI</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thememoryguy.com&#x2F;3d-nands-impact-on-the-equipment-market&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thememoryguy.com&#x2F;3d-nands-impact-on-the-equipment-ma...</a>
kridsdale36 months ago
When I was in school studying NAND devices (2004-2010) we were quite apprehensive at the long term quantum stability of 4-layer devices.<p>This (the past 20 years of improvement) is an incredible feat of engineering.
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StringyBob6 months ago
What does &#x27;layer&#x27; mean in this context? I&#x27;m only familiar with planar style logic process nodes which have maybe up to 20 layers (and way more lithography steps to manufacture those layers), but I am completely ignorant of how the term is used for a flash process node.<p>How many layers are needed for each physical cell? Is it 1,2, or a lot more? Is this effectively 321 physical TLC cells stacked vertically and some planar style logic at the bottom of the stack.<p>Also, where do multiple pieces of silicon factor into this - I assume we might be up to 16 silicon dies deep with through-silicon-vias, which would mean a cross section of a package could actually have 5000 layers - that sounds crazy!
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ksec6 months ago
If I am reading this correctly, this is still the same 1Tb per die but with 321 layers, meaning up to 2TB &#x2F; package. The package should now be under 100mm2.<p>This would hopefully bring down the price of 4TB and 8TB SSD in the near future.
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Neywiny6 months ago
I just want smaller SPI flash for embedded :( it&#x27;s been over 10 years since there&#x27;s been improvement in that space
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hinkley6 months ago
Where’s the point where you figure out how to stack chiplets perpendicular to a backplane instead of doing lithography 300 times on the same chip?
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fodkodrasz6 months ago
&gt; triple level cell-based 4D memory<p>What does 4D memory mean?
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Animats6 months ago
Wow. What&#x27;s the yield like? Are some bits bad and bypassed during testing?
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tomcam6 months ago
Cookie permission dialog is the worst I have encountered in months
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drpixie6 months ago
Title should probably be &quot;Hynix launches 321-layer NAND RAM&quot;.
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pajeetz6 months ago
insider info: all the top talent at Samsung left for SK Hynix after government stepped and forced DEI on Samsung leading to unqualified managers ruining Samsung&#x27;s culture of innovation and rewarding experimentation.
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