Creepy shit. If I want to acknowledge a post, I can already comment on it, or do a passive like. And how exactly does fb decide that something was seen? I might not even have bothered to read the entire message. Is there any way to "unsee" it?<p>I feel that social contracts and relationships that people have are more complex than what fb models them to be. And leaving these imprints without any control over them is just gonna result in awkward moments.
I can't decide if this is good or bad. I don't participate in a lot of FB groups, but I do a lot of politely keeping my mouth shut in other forms of online communication. I think I would feel like I was being put on the spot to say something, particularly in a small group.<p>A lot of times, I'm not going to lie and agree with that thing someone said, but I also don't want to invest the energy into arguing it with them, either... especially when it's someone who's clearly just looking for accolades and doesn't seem open to criticism.<p>If the other person knows you saw their message, then there's the potential for them to perceive your lack of response as rude or a show of obvious disagreement.<p>In huge groups, it wouldn't be an issue, but in smaller, more intimate communities, it could get awkward.
Probably as a way to show visual "engagement" for companies that are on Facebook but don't get a lot of likes. Its more derivative crap. We can call them "seens".<p>And of course there the creep factor.<p>I'm having a hard time determining if Facebook is just terrible, low value, and creepy, or I'm just cynical about Facebook. Probably both.
Seeing something isn't the same as having read and digested it.<p>I used to have a boss who would send out emails and request read receipts and outlook would automatically send them as soon as I clicked on the item in my Inbox.<p>I would sometimes get a phone call within seconds of the email arriving asking for my thoughts on it.
Wow, this feature and the comment history feature(when editing a comment) make me uncomfortable. They might as well begin showing you who is seeing your profile and how much.
Inspired by FuzzyDunlop's subcomment to another participant, I have to ask the direct question: does this help Facebook monetize and gain value for shareholders any more than any of its other features? I'm beginning to think that there really is a market for a PAID service where customers (the people paying for the service) are treated like customers, rather than advertisers being treated like the customers. Some of the friends I most like interacting with on Facebook are looking for a service like that. They are annoyed by Facebook's flailing about looking for ways to monetize.
I hate this. I feel fine lurking in a group I've been added to unless or until I want to engage. This also gives an inappropriate amount of data to the creator of a group, who isn't always the person who is supposed to be armed with that information.
In the group context, I think this makes a lot of sense. It is similar to Path (which is basically a "group" limited to my closest friend). For every post I make, it shows me which of my friends saw it, and that is convenient and cool.<p>I think this could work well for small groups of trusted friends (or shared interest groups). For large scale groups of strangers this could be creepy though. I definitely would hate to see it abused by larger brands, etc (or for this to be integrated into the main news feed for that matter)... which unfortunately at this point I can't say I trust Facebook enough to believe they wouldn't try to push it past that limit
Personally, I think this stuff is great. It eliminates a lot of extra communication regarding whether someone has received a piece of information or not.<p>That said, I wonder at what point is a post considered "seen".
Why are some people so eager to give Facebook the role of dictating social behavior, rather than forcing them to be what they should be, a tool that facilitates our own social desires and expectations?
I think this works in the chat but don't see the use of it in a group. I thought I wouldn't like it when it was announced for the chat but now it's nice to see a "seen" message. This kind of thing is a pressure to engage faster since you know when the other person has read something you sent to them in a one-on-one conversation. Then again, as others have mentioned, how can FB know if I've seen something or not. Surely, we'll have eyeball-following cameras in everything soon.
They've already been doing this in chat, I suppose this is a logical extension. That said, is it really necessary to see this or is it a step beyond what is necessary?
Too reminiscent of those pesky read email requests. Also, 'Seen by' is not the same thing as 'Really read by'. One reason why I stopped using Messenger (the app and web version)<p>Favoring the content producer over the consumer won't necessarily lead to less confusion or a better user experience. It's kind of a forced form of social regardless of the group's size.
where's Facebook going with this, seriously?<p>I already leave almost every group I'm forced into(cause I can't chose if someone 'invite me' to it), the two I decided to keep I barely ever look and have to change the settings so that shit stops notifying me for stupid shit I'm not interested<p>Also, I had been aching to silence(unsub) everyone in there because it just feel like a fucking noisy echo chamber with almost nothing that's remotely relevant... So.. I've probably already 'silenced' a big part of them, and then I ended up using a Chrome extension to just hide all that Wall crap out of there, because the chat is the only thing I can take some value of on this site.<p>But the experience is still pretty bad because I also keep getting notifications for event and game invites I don't want at all and also, for what people post in events I never RSVPed. In fact, I almost never even bother opening the event page. I'm a party dude, but I'll just care about events at the moment I want to go out. I also cannot stop notifications from invites, only for specific people, after I refuse a single invite and then 2 or 3 clicks into it(to stop invites from ONE person)<p>Facebook, you suck hard and you're going down soon I'm sure. I wish you didn't sucked so much because I'm getting wary I'll have to start untangling my future app from your API sooner than I expected.