Whats up with programmers avoiding programming?

Walking away from the computer and going outside can be incredibly beneficial to solving problems you're stuck on. You keep thinking about the problem even while you're away, and the problem drifts in and out of your consciousness as you're off doing non-programming things, but somehow this "light" thinking ends up stirring some extra understanding or breakthrough. Many other people report similar experiences, see Rich Hickey's Hammock Driven Development talk for a related but slightly different take.<p>Other than that, I don't think there is any new wave, unless I'm out of touch and you're not. Most of my peers and colleagues hack through the weekends, on their own work, or something fun and new, like learning a new language, a new app platform, or something hardware related like 3d printing and Arduino tinkering.

I'm pretty certain the question is trolling, but...<p>It's because sitting in front of a computer coding all day, everyday makes a person fat and boring. And nobody else wants to hang around people who are fat and boring.<p>It may not be obvious that coding all the time makes a person fat and boring, so the "get out and do stuff" responses are warnings to let people know that there's more to life than writing code.

Most people, most of the time, are not working on projects so fun and engaging that they enter crunch of their own accord.<p>If you are, go for it. But the rest of the time you have to assume your programming will be dealing with "boring problems" that don't allow for an exciting solution - a balanced lifestyle helps make those situations acceptable.

&#62;I don't get it - I just don't get it. Is there anyone out there like me that would stay indoors tinkering with hardware and software over spending time rock-climbing or vacationing any day of the week?<p>No, programming isn't the pinnacle of enjoyment and/or pleasure for me. It can be an interesting way to pass time, but it's also a great way (for me, and I'd say for most people once enough time has passed) to become fat and boring if taken too far.<p>You have a hard time understanding why someone would not want to do one certain really cool thing as often as they can, while I wonder how you can possibly keep doing just one thing and miss out on everything your damn short life has to offer.<p>I'll go a step further in isolating myself and say that if I had an "unwavering passion" for something, I'd begin to suspect some sort of compulsive disorder.

I used to be like that, always spending every moment coding or learning about ways to improve coding (and I did learn and improve a lot). But I also had absolutely no social life and was terribly overweight/out of shape. I still code in my free time (in fact, I spent much of today playing with Scala and LWJGL), but I make a conscious effort to head out and interact with the world (in as nerdy of a way as possible of course, I have a FuelBand which forces me to go out and be active to keep my streak up). I love coding (both at work and for fun) and would still do it all day every day if I could, but I found my quality of life increased by leaps and bounds as I picked up the slack elsewhere (not just in fitness, but mentally as well. Especially walking around, hiking, exercise, &#38;c helps clear my mind and refocus). Maybe you're not as totally lost as I was, but until technology advances enough for me to exist as a brain in a vat, I have actually found it very important to get away and engage tertiary faculties not directly related to the generation of sourcecode. And I'm never too far away from my projects anyway. I tend to have a chromebook/tablet/phone with me running an ssh client and a tmux session always running on my raspberry pi, but typically forget about it entirely unless I have a sudden epiphany).

Yep, you're spot on. You just don't get it.

The first question would be "Is this advice truly coming from programmers?" Even if it is, 'being a better programmer' means different things to different people. Many people are not dedicated to trying to be the best but still identify as a programmer.<p>If you ask someone how to be a better musician, someone might say "go to more shows", 'hang out and collaborate with other musicians", or "try lots of different instruments". If you ask someone who strives to be the best musician and is world class, they hear the question as "how do I be the best musician" not "how do I be a better musician." Who wants to merely be better? They only know to be the best and will say "practice all night and all day forever". It doesn't mean they are the best or ever will be, but its a different mindset.

I purposely avoid programming and electronic devices for the sake of perspective and brainstorming.<p>When I'm writing code I'm boxed into production mode. Get. Shit. Done. But, particularly when the work I am doing is self-directed and self-prioritized (aka my own startup or side project), I need hours away to really think about the big picture.<p>Activities that are away from the bombardment of input of my computer/phone work best for me. Let my mind wander. Think about different ways to approach problems. I often find there are higher priority things to do than whatever I thought I was going to code up next.

Coding is one of the most enjoyable things in life for me. There are times when a good coffee, nice music, and scala turn into hours of bliss.<p>However, I just don't think it's possible to operate in the mindset required for good software engineering for prolonged periods of time, day in and day out, without breaks.<p>So I do other things to recharge. I am friends with a professional martial arts instructor. It's his favorite thing to do, but doing it ten hours a day 7 days a week isn't healthy for his body. So he surfs and reads books etc. too.<p>Don't see why it would be any different for your mind.

There is a difference between having an unwavering passion for ones craft and having an unwavering passion for ones craft between 9am and 5pm.<p>Sure, your job could also be your hobby but that doesn't mean that your job HAS to be your hobby. I know plenty of engineers who love tinkering with stuff but would rather spend the weekend doing other things and spend time with family and friends.<p>Edit: I too spend 14 hours a day programming. But I'm working towards a start up. I love what I do and I do enjoy it, but I would much rather spend the weekend hanging out with people if I had the chance.

I think people who enjoy programming, really enjoy it,don't communicate here as much as other places.<p>I am with you though, I would have rather stayed home and worked implementing gradual engagement on one of my "pet" web applications then going to the jack-and-jill party with my wife today.<p>Oh well, there is always tonight, after hours.

Having passion for your craft does not have to be an exclusive thing. Can you image other artists bemoaning Leonardo da Vinci's "lack of passion" because he worked on engineering projects as well?

I've never met a great programmer than didn't also love other stuff besides programming. Variety is the juice that creativity runs on.