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Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

697 pointsby nateb20225 months ago

52 comments

sovietmudkipz5 months ago
I love self hosting useful apps. I wish finding more things was easier. Right now I self host a jellyfin server and home assistant. When I learned a subscription for home security was $75&#x2F;mo I said “there has to be something out there” and there was. I pay the developer their $6&#x2F;mo even though everything works without it.<p>Jellyfin has been amazing for physical media backups. It’s nice to experience old VHSes and DVDs in a user friendly way.
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bitvoid5 months ago
I&#x27;ve been using Plex (connecting via Tailscale) with their Plexamp music player.<p>It&#x27;s been working pretty well, but I might have to give this a try to compare. Although, it&#x27;s not clear from the GitHub README or the Apple App Store listing if the mobile app allows you to download music for offline listening.
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ccakes5 months ago
I tried this (among a bunch of others) about a year ago and landed on Gonic[1] for the server and Supersonic[2] on PC and Amperfy[3] on mobile. Yes it&#x27;s a few different tools to maintain (plus beets etc), but it&#x27;s the ideal set of features etc for me.<p>Self-hosting has been fun and I&#x27;ve started experimenting with local LLMs to build playlists which is helping discoverability.. or more &#x2F;rediscovering&#x2F; artists that I haven&#x27;t listened to in a while<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sentriz&#x2F;gonic&#x2F;">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sentriz&#x2F;gonic&#x2F;</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dweymouth&#x2F;supersonic">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dweymouth&#x2F;supersonic</a> [3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;BLeeEZ&#x2F;amperfy">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;BLeeEZ&#x2F;amperfy</a>
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paxys5 months ago
I have tried every music playing option under the sun for the last 15 years and am now happily back to creating playlists on my computer and periodically dragging them to my phone&#x27;s local storage. There is still no better overall experience.
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emmanueloga_5 months ago
I’ve been searching for services that host personal music collections, but there doesn’t seem to be much available. I came across a product called Vox [1], which I might try. There are also plenty of self-hosted projects of varying quality (but I hadn’t seen Black Candy before).<p>I&#x27;d like a service where I can upload a large folder of MP3s, and it would help organize them into albums, perform useful processing like ReplayGain normalization, BPM and key analysis, etc. It should also have a good playlist manager and player for desktop and mobile.<p>Some existing services allow you to add your own music files, like MP3s, but this often feels like a second-class citizen. Services like SoundCloud are focused more on social interactions, which I don’t really need.<p>Have I missed any services like this?<p>There&#x27;s some growing dissatisfaction around algorithm-driven music services like Spotify. Also, these services carry the risk of music disappearing for various reasons. I think a service allowing curation of own MP3 collections could appeal a significant fraction of all music lovers out there.<p>--<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vox.rocks&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vox.rocks&#x2F;</a>
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clearleaf5 months ago
Large microsd cards are very cheap these days. Using all this cloud stuff seems like a waste of multiple resources. And if you ever don&#x27;t have a good connection then it&#x27;s worthless. I&#x27;ve given stuff like this a try and only found it worth it on internal networks.
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rwmj5 months ago
A lot of talk here about different solutions. I wonder if there&#x27;s a universal interoperable standard for self hosted music streaming these days? I&#x27;m still using the old Logitech Media Server (with some physical Squeezeboxen), but something a bit more featureful would be great. Especially with good indexing and search. And if it could interoperate so I could choose different clients and server, and wouldn&#x27;t be tied to that software.
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akurtzhs5 months ago
If you’re willing to pay for proprietary software, I’ve been incredibly happy with Roon for music organization. Handles 99% of albums I add without an issue, great multi-room support, best suggestions of any existing service (Rest in peace Google Play Music). They added remote streaming a few years ago and it’s all I use now.
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bane5 months ago
I guess this is the time I ask the question I ask whenever a new self-hosted media streaming server gets posted...does anybody know of any similar server for demoscene tracker files and&#x2F;or retroconsole music format (bit tunes) hosting, transcoding and serving the stream?<p>chip-player-js [1][2] has more or less exactly what I&#x27;m looking for, and I&#x27;d be perfectly happy with it, but I can&#x27;t seem to get any of the docker containers I find to build properly or the repo to build due to dependency issues (probably ignorance on my part) [3][4].<p>1 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chiptune.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chiptune.app&#x2F;</a> 2 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mattmontag.com&#x2F;music&#x2F;chip-player-js" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mattmontag.com&#x2F;music&#x2F;chip-player-js</a> 3 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mmontag&#x2F;chip-player-js">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mmontag&#x2F;chip-player-js</a> 4 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;soltune&#x2F;chip-player-js-docker">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;soltune&#x2F;chip-player-js-docker</a>
runsonrum5 months ago
I run Jellyfin and Symfonium. Symfonium isn&#x27;t free but it is feature filled and it seems to be a passion for the Dev.<p>All for other options in this area as it has taken me a few goes at finding something that works for me. Usually it is the client that is lacking.
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monkaiju5 months ago
Longtime Navidrome user so that&#x27;s what I&#x27;m comparing this to.<p>This project looks cool, albeit simple at this point, but what I&#x27;d really love is a solution for music discovery for folks who self host their collection.<p>Is there something that sets this project apart from other easily self hostable tools?
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sphars5 months ago
I&#x27;ve been using Navidrome to great success, but will look into this. Any particular differences between the two?
loxias5 months ago
Wow! Complete with custom mobile player! That&#x27;s quite a ways up from &quot;set up a ssh tunnel home and use vlc&quot;, I may have to take this for a spin.
gigatexal5 months ago
Seems the theme going into the new year might just be self hosting things... This and this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;siyuan-note&#x2F;siyuan">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;siyuan-note&#x2F;siyuan</a> are both on the front page of HN
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mikae15 months ago
<i>&gt; Your browser is not supported. Please upgrade your browser to continue.</i><p>With latest Firefox stable on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;demo.blackcandy.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;demo.blackcandy.org</a>. Is this right?
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lakomen5 months ago
Hmm.. I have a different use case. There are 7 years of a radio show with daily recordings of about 2-3 hours in length, including images. About 400GB in size.<p>It used to all be hosted on a heavily ad plastered Drupal site, but I took it down a few years ago, because reasons.<p>I would like to make the archive available to the public, it would be such a waste to delete it. When I write available, I mean via a website. This blackcandy seems to be private only, requiring auth.<p>I would also prefer if the shows were streamed not directly downloaded, to keep bandwidth down, if you know what I mean.<p>Does software for this use case exist?
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saxonww5 months ago
There&#x27;s also owntone, formerly forked-daapd. It implements DAAP, which is what iTunes&#x2F;Apple Music uses.<p>Works with Rhythmbox, at least. IDK if there is a compatible Android client.
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j00575 months ago
I run multiple minidlna instances in Podman and let BubbleUPNP connect to them through Wireguard. Getting the multicast discovery to work was a bit challenging.
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CableNinja5 months ago
Does this support the OpenSubsonic API[1]? I didnt see it mentioned. I miss subsonic (except that it was java). All of the current servers have quirks i havent enjoyed, but having the subsonic mobileapp all through them has been great.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensubsonic.netlify.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensubsonic.netlify.app&#x2F;</a>
kaleinator5 months ago
What&#x27;s the benefit in using a &quot;self hosted streaming server&quot;, when I can just mount a network share and connect to a personal VPN when I&#x27;m out and about? This is what I&#x27;ve been doing for awhile and I&#x27;ve had zero issues. As far as I can tell it&#x27;s secure.<p>Is it just to allow others to use the server with login credentials?
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Sphax5 months ago
The UI looks nice but it doesn&#x27;t look like there&#x27;s CarPlay support unfortunately.<p>I don&#x27;t use my car that often but when I do I want to be able to access my music library. Right now I&#x27;m stuck with Plex and Prism on iOS because other solutions are not good in that regard as far as I&#x27;ve seen in my testing.
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at_a_remove5 months ago
This looks interesting for an eventual project.<p>I want to separate out music into groups, then into shuffleable playlists. I would eventually stream each to one of those local FM transmitters so I could build a few radio stations for my mother, who is absolutely terrible with technology and, at eighty, is not likely to get better. I am figuring a late Fifties&#x2F;early Sixties (stuff she won dance competitions to), then your basic angry music starting around the mid-eighties (Killing Joke&#x27;s &quot;Eighties,&quot; a few Ministry albums, NIN) and on, a classic rock &quot;station,&quot; and now, disturbingly, a yacht rock playlist. Then she can just jump around as needed.
pocky5 months ago
I&#x27;d love to find something that works effectively at randomly streaming my music video collection, esp out as an rtsp stream. Kodi&#x27;s music video support has a tendency to choke and has some weird deficiencies in how it handles them, such as audio leveling.
dcreater5 months ago
I&#x27;m about to use my existing jellyfin setup. Amy advantage here over jellyfin?
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drngdds5 months ago
How does this differ from Navidrome and other Subsonic-based music servers?
sshagent5 months ago
I&#x27;m currently using icecast and ices to host a music stream. It&#x27;ll effectively stream music to a port, and multiple clients can enjoy.<p>Anyone doing something similar, I&#x27;d like to migrate to something more modern.
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bramhaag5 months ago
People who use this or something similar (Jellyfin, Navidrome, etc.), what do you use to easily add new music?<p>Ideally I&#x27;d like to automate this to the point where I can look up an album and it gets downloaded automatically, similar to how Overseerr[1] works for movies and series but without the dependency on Plex.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sct&#x2F;overseerr">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sct&#x2F;overseerr</a>
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pluc5 months ago
I use mpd and ncmpcpp but arguably I don&#x27;t need much in terms of features, I just play all the things on shuffle.<p>No point in using my phone as when I&#x27;m on the LAN, I don&#x27;t need it, and when I&#x27;m out of it, it&#x27;s counter productive to connect to it (because Canada still has third world mobile data rates) and better off replicating the entire library on-device.
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acidburnNSA5 months ago
I&#x27;ve been using mopidy plus Snapcast to do this (via wireguard when remote) and have enjoyed it. Good multi-room, multi-site audio.
oliwarner5 months ago
Lyrion should get a mention. It&#x27;s a brand fork of Logitech Media Server, aka squeezeboxserver aka slimserver.<p>It has multi-room, quite broad hardware support and support for Spotify, Chromecast, etc through plugins. There are also a few DIY devices you can run squeezelite on to add cheap, good players.
Touche5 months ago
What do people use for a NAS nowadays?
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farceSpherule5 months ago
If you are looking for a self hosted server that integrates with SONOS check out Subsonic.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.subsonic.org&#x2F;pages&#x2F;index.jsp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.subsonic.org&#x2F;pages&#x2F;index.jsp</a>
Rassi5 months ago
I&#x27;ve been looking for a music server to stream music from my local NAS to our Alexa Echo speakers. Tried Plex, and I can&#x27;t get it and Alexa to play nice. Are any of these able to integrate with Alexa speakers????
zero05295 months ago
Perfect! I was looking for a way to replace YouTube music. I’ve been slowly migrating away from YouTube, while maintaining the ability to watch my favorite content creators. I use pinch flat, Jellyfin and audiobookshelf.
globular-toast5 months ago
I don&#x27;t see any mention of UPnP. Is anyone using a set up where they have some kind of headless device plugged in to a hi-fi amp and just want to control it from their phone without switching on another screen?
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geepytee5 months ago
Never crossed my mind to self host my own music streaming server, great idea!
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nycdatasci5 months ago
I&#x27;m probably missing something. Why self-host when for $10&#x2F;mo. you can access a nearly unlimited catalog of music on Spotify with integration on phone, PC, car, Sonos, etc?
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pmontra5 months ago
Server: Icecast + deefuzzer + directories with music files on a ssd.<p>Clients: VLC or Transistor on Android.<p>Search: a web form to a script (Python? Lua?) that uses find to look for files into the music directories.
ryanmcbride5 months ago
No last.fm scrobbling? I know what I&#x27;m doing this weekend!!
joking5 months ago
I didn’t see synology or qnap mentioned here. They are probably the easiest way to self host and stream the músic, even if they are simpler, but for me worked well.
MetroWind5 months ago
- Docker as default deployment method - Ruby - Nodejs<p>I&#x27;ll pass :-&gt;
neuroelectron5 months ago
Instead of streaming, it would be nice if the server kept flac than transcoded the library and automatically synced it to mobile devices.
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ErneX5 months ago
I use piCorePlayer + LMS (Lyrion Music Server, previously Logitech Music Server) on a Raspberry Pi with a DAC plugged to my amplifier.
suyash5 months ago
Is there a way to play YouTube music and create it as a playlist using this, bonus if it can also block ads?
ThrowawayTestr5 months ago
I have Spotify and a few dozen gigs on my phone for the stuff Spotify doesn&#x27;t have (or has removed).
majkinetor5 months ago
Slightly off-topic, but does anybody know something easy to create online radios from music collection?
ibbtown5 months ago
I wish i could send the audio signal to my Sonos&#x2F;airplay devices. That would make it awesome
rayrrr5 months ago
Any Ruby to Elixir folks interested in porting this to the latter?
sirjaz5 months ago
I wish there was a native app for Windows and MacOS for this.
Modified30195 months ago
Does this support 5 star ratings in app?
cranberryturkey5 months ago
How does this compare to zymotv?
tosser20845 months ago
Why would I do this over a Synology DiskStation which allows me a hassle-free way to stream my music anywhere I have a internet connection... I use it daily in my car without a problem, going on my 3rd DSM and ~10 years of this setup.
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