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The Fannie and Freddie trade is back

90 pointsby ioblomov4 months ago

8 comments

jarsin4 months ago
I encourage anyone thinking of following Ackman to look up all the shenanigans he played on investors with his Spac.<p>He essentially leveraged the massive pile of money from Spac investors to buyout UMG for his own fund. Leaving the Spac investors high and dry with no ownership. He keeps making those investors empty promises about some future deal to this day years after the Spac folded.<p>Ackman only puts out stuff like this public if he needs retail to give him leverage on some angle he has.
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ioblomov4 months ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;AyyVE" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;AyyVE</a>
muglug4 months ago
I hope Matt Levine is well-capitalised because he’s pretty-much the only reason I subscribe to Bloomberg
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TheRealPomax4 months ago
Ah the modern internet. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;3c5nQ8J.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;3c5nQ8J.png</a>
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great_psy4 months ago
I think a lot of conspiracies people have are out in the open, it’s just that they are hidden behind articles that take 30 minutes to read and understand.
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nayuki4 months ago
Relevant quotes from the article:<p>&gt; 2. Banks lend people the money to buy houses, but the government encourages them to do so by guaranteeing the loans.<p>&gt; 3. Banks lend people the money to buy houses, but someone else guarantees the loans. There’s a big Mortgage Guarantee Company ... Mortgage Guarantee Company is a regular public company, owned by shareholders, but it is a large good safe company with sterling credit. And the Mortgage Guarantee Company is carefully regulated by the US government to make sure that it is well capitalized and safe, so banks will happily rely on its guarantees. They’re not government guarantees, but they’re AAA-rated, government-regulated guarantees, almost as good as the government. The government, in this approach, is not providing a financial guarantee, but it is putting its seal of approval on the Mortgage Guarantee Company’s guarantee, saying “you should trust this guarantee almost as much as you would trust our guarantee, because we endorse this company and regulate it carefully.<p>&gt; The approach that the government settled on for many decades was “mostly 2, but kind of really 3.”<p>I like Matt Levine explicitly spelling out these details. Why? Because many people in the general public, especially leftists and socialists, believe that the 2008 Great Financial Crisis was caused by greedy US banks lending out money to unworthy people who had no ability to pay back loans, and take a profit from each transaction, and sell the toxic debt to other parties. It&#x27;s a story directly attacking the greed and corruption in capitalism.<p>While those 3 points in the story are true, what this ever-popular narrative misses out is that the banks were motivated to make these loans because someone else - FMAC and FMAE - guaranteed them. And FMAC and FMAE basically have the full backing of the US government. The banks weren&#x27;t risking their own money if loans fail; they were risking someone else&#x27;s money. If the banks were the ultimate underwriter of these mortgages and thus defaulters would impact the banks, then the banks would&#x27;ve been way more diligent and restrictive about loaning out the money. So in the end, this is more a story about socialism and government interference that underlies the capitalistic greed. The bad loans were subsidized by the public at large, and that is a good example of socialism in practice.
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alecco4 months ago
Maybe it&#x27;s a good trade. But if it&#x27;s not, Ackman and all the other snakes will get out of the trade well before you. Stay in safe money markets with decent yields. Don&#x27;t swim with sharks.
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AnotherGoodName4 months ago
Note that the majority of bad 2008 loans were from a spike in financial business lending not personal lending.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Subprime_mortgage_crisis#&#x2F;media&#x2F;File%3AUS_Private_Debt_to_GDP_by_Sector.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Subprime_mortgage_crisis#&#x2F;me...</a><p>You’ve probably heard of private equity buying companies, loading them with debt, transferring money to the parent and bankrupting the company and wondering why banks give loans to private equity when we know this playbook. Well the bank loans are guaranteed ultimately by Freddie&#x2F;Fannie. There’s no risk here and everyone but productive members of society win here. It’s still ongoing too.
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