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Hitler dismantled a democracy in 53 days through constitutional means

89 pointsby dr_dshiv5 months ago

13 comments

sitkack5 months ago
Side quip, the H in STEM stands for history.<p>If you look at the schooling of the ruling class, history is one of the most important subjects. And I am not talking about pilgrims and the Louisiana purchase. If you want to understand where you are, how you got there and where things are going there is no better way than to learn from the people before you.<p>One way to pique your interest is to listen to podcasts and lectures.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hardcore_History" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hardcore_History</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dancarlin&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;dancarlin&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dancarlin.com&#x2F;hardcore-history-series&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dancarlin.com&#x2F;hardcore-history-series&#x2F;</a>
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bell-cot5 months ago
Look at some more nations, and more history.<p>If the people really believe in a system of government, then you don&#x27;t need any words-on-paper constitutions or laws or stuff.<p>If the people have really lost faith in the system (generally because it repeatedly failed to meet their basic needs), then all the pieces of paper and fancy-looking buildings and robed officials in the world don&#x27;t count for shit.
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roshin5 months ago
there were some extremely UNdemocratic things he did, like stabbing all of his political enemies. the democratic institution should have had the police stop the SA gangs that were terrorizing the unpopular people, but there wasn&#x27;t enough political will to do that, until it was too late.
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Arnt5 months ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;verfassungsblog.de&#x2F;ein-volkskanzler&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;verfassungsblog.de&#x2F;ein-volkskanzler&#x2F;</a> is a quite readable story of how the same thing might play out now in a possible democracy. If reading it scares you, that makes two of us.<p>In German, I&#x27;m sure it&#x27;s been translated but I link to the original.
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magic_smoke_ee5 months ago
Maybe the US needs a bug bounty for the conjecture raised by Gödel&#x27;s supposed loophole.
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cherryteastain5 months ago
Kurt Gödel, famous Austrian mathematician, was afraid that the US constitution has a flaw which makes it vulnerable to a similar seizure of power. Unfortunately, he never wrote down what it is, so we don&#x27;t know what he was concerned about specifically.<p>Fortunately, the event most similar to the Reichstag fire - January 6th - did not in reality lead the US down that kind of path.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;G%C3%B6del&#x27;s_Loophole" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;G%C3%B6del&#x27;s_Loophole</a>
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st-keller5 months ago
Why is this flagged? „How a democracy was hacked“ is not something that should be on Hacker News?
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thread_id4 months ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.yahoo.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;hitler-dismantled-democracy-53-days-133000255.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.yahoo.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;hitler-dismantled-democracy-53-da...</a>
orwin5 months ago
I heavily dislike the article. It misses at least two points.<p>One, the Nazi (or rather, the nationalist coalition) was on the decline, as were the conservatives in power, and were set to loose multiple seats in the next elections. Seizing power, fast, was needed.<p>Two, Hitler used laws set in by the radical center and the conservatives to take power. Yes, he used violence, but the holes that allowed the takeover were set before, by judges and previous governments.
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hatf05 months ago
Paywall bypass link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;22fpW" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;22fpW</a>
beej715 months ago
I can&#x27;t find the expression &quot;den parlamentarischen Sumpf&quot; anywhere. The article seems to imply that Hitler used it.<p>Does anyone have a source of him saying it or writing it?
thomassmith655 months ago
I gather some readers here are flagging this article - despite it being of general interest - because of the political innuendo? Are we not to submit posts about WWII here for the next four years?
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daft_pink5 months ago
Godwin’s law is alive and in force.
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