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How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

281 pointsby mgsouth4 months ago

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mrb4 months ago
I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&amp;t=19s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&amp;t=19s</a> It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks with &quot;explosive bolts&quot;. At the right moment, the actor driving the car pushed a button to trigger the (tiny) explosives which made the car fall apart. Here is a French article about it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;2cv-legende.com&#x2F;expo-de-la-2cv-du-film-le-corniaud-a-st-raphael" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;2cv-legende.com&#x2F;expo-de-la-2cv-du-film-le-corniaud-a...</a><p>PS: the French wikipedia article on the movie has a picture of the explosive bolts they used: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fr.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Le_Corniaud#L&#x27;accident_de_la_2_CV" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fr.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Le_Corniaud#L&#x27;accident_de_la_2...</a>
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wisty4 months ago
For those who don&#x27;t know, Keaton was amazingly dedicated as a comedic stuntman - a silent era Jackie Chan (he was less popular after the silent era, but kept working until his death in the 60s).<p>From Wikipedia: Garry Moore recalled, &quot;I asked (Keaton) how he did all those falls, and he said, &#x27;I&#x27;ll show you.&#x27; He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that&#x27;s how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to care.&quot; This would have been in about 1955, when Keaton (born 1899) was an old man and well past his heyday of really dangerous stunts (he once broke his neck during an early stunt).<p>And he usually had an amazing commitment to film in a lot of other ways. The first time he was shot in a film he took a camera apart to figure out how it worked, because he really cared about every detail (though in the middle of his career this really hurt him, as execs wanted to just trot him up in front of the camera as a high paid celebrity - they didn&#x27;t want him wasting his valuable time fussing over details, or risk their investment letting him do stunts).
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hilbert424 months ago
Those reasons seem to make sense but I&#x27;d say just as much has to do with Buster Keaton himself, he had nerves of steel.<p>During the filming of the Civil War movie <i>The General</i> there are images of Keaton doing things that even the bravest of stuntmen wouldn&#x27;t do these days and we&#x27;d now rely on film animation and tricks to make the scenes work.<p>For instance, Keaton—who obviously was very fit and agile—is filmed sitting on a cowcatcher of a moving locomotive whilst removing rail ties that were placed on the line to impede the train&#x27;s progress and then tossing them aside.<p>I read somewhere that Clyde Bruckman the film&#x27;s director gave instructions to the cameraman &quot;to keep filming the scene until finished or until Keaton is killed&quot; or words to that effect.<p>I can&#x27;t remember whether Bruckman was referring to this scene or another such as when he&#x27;s running across the locomotive&#x27;s tender (the comment could equally have applied to many other scenes I reckon). Others who are more knowledgeable could perhaps fill in the details.<p>I like this movie, Keaton was a great performer and his movies are a testament to that.
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watersb4 months ago
I&#x27;m surprised there&#x27;s no mention yet of the incredible scene from the 1980 film &quot;The Blues Brothers&quot;.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;QfN1GRqKXpM?si=-4Mwmipl5sCFtCWN" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;QfN1GRqKXpM?si=-4Mwmipl5sCFtCWN</a><p>This practical effect took weeks to set up.<p>I can&#x27;t find documentation specifying any special techniques used to create this version of the car. I recall reading an interview naming the builder who set it up, and how no one on set was allowed to touch it except the actors, John Belushi and Dan Ackroyd. Only one take. Can&#x27;t find that interview now.
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csours4 months ago
&quot;The only secret of magic is I&#x27;m willing to work harder on it than you think it&#x27;s worth&quot; - Penn Jillette<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=trRJ4J15xU8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=trRJ4J15xU8</a>
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vodou4 months ago
I love Buster Keaton. For me he might be the greatest performer ever.<p>I actually watched the video linked in the comments with his greatest stunts and also one short movie together with my kids (5 and 8 years old) just the other day. They laughed their heads off!<p>So if you can hear me, Buster, wherever you are: Your films are holding up a hundred years later. That is quite a feat.
sandworm1014 months ago
Much of these tricks comes from how cars used to be constructed. Without any concept of safety cages, they were basically a bunch of very light structures secured atop a heavy metal frame. So long as the actor remains on the seat above the frame, they are in a falling house of cards. Today we build the frames around the people. Pull such a stunt in a modern car and you will be trapped amongst twisted metal rails.<p>Cars were also much simpler to take apart. A few bolts here and there and a couple people could remove an engine. A few more and the roof came off too. Today, it is all spot welded and tight tollerances. Removing any substanial part of a modern car, anything beyond the seats, requires planning and specialized tools.
OuterVale4 months ago
This made me think of the scene in <i>Chitty Chitty Bang Bang</i> when Lionel Jeffries is captured and forced to convert a car into the titular phantasmagorical fuel-burning oracle. I was wondering just the other day how they achieved that effect.<p>Wonderful little read. Thanks!
ErigmolCt4 months ago
It’s hard to believe they could make cars fall apart so perfectly without the tech we have today.
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monkeymeister4 months ago
This is both engineering and art. Magnificent.
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radar13104 months ago
Kinda looks like the Michael Waltrip 1990 crash at Bristol in the NASCAR race.it’s on YT, look it up.
sirshmooey4 months ago
Just don’t look up how they made the horses fall down.
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josefritzishere4 months ago
This is brilliant. Today it&#x27;d all be CGI trash.
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betimsl4 months ago
They loosened the screws.