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'Passive house' survives fire in California

33 pointsby tehnub4 months ago

15 comments

turtlebits4 months ago
This is not a passive house, this was confirmed by a builder on Youtube who contacted the architect.<p>The features called out that contributed were - Stucco siding - Metal roof with no overhangs - ~4&#x27; tall concrete wall - 1 hour fire rated exterior wall assembly
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pamelafox4 months ago
For folks in the east bay area, the Berkeley fire department gave a great talk on fire risk reduction: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=0MUh16czYGk&amp;t=239" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=0MUh16czYGk&amp;t=239</a><p>In the past year, I’ve added gutter guards, removed trees in zone zero (especially fire-prone cypress), and hardscaped zone zero. I need to look into whether we can do more sealing like this passive house- bit tricky with 1950s construction.
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larusso4 months ago
Reminds me of my home here in Germany. I guess it’s not as sophisticated as the architects where more concerned with energy savings then fresh air. Means in the early years we had to vent the house manually a lot. I friend of mine renovated his house and installed on top an automated air refresh system. I wish my house had the same.<p>What I mean specifically is that around 2010ish the energy footprint started to be become more and more important. Currently the building codes here are so crazy that building a new house demands quite the upfront costs.
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Full_Clark4 months ago
I&#x27;d love to know more about the windows. The architect&#x27;s thread on Twitter mentioned that the windows are made of tempered glass, but I don&#x27;t know if that&#x27;s significant because they withstood impact damage better, or rejected heat better, or for some other reason.<p>Often there are flammable interior furnishings close to windows in a home (e.g. fairly flimsy cloth curtains). I wonder if the radiant heat of a nearby structure or vehicle fire is sufficient to ignite them through a typical residential single-paned window. In other words, is there a fire danger even when the window pane doesn&#x27;t break and embers or hot gases stay on the outside?
adrianN4 months ago
&gt; Though still a fairly new trend on the market<p>Passive Houses are a thing since the seventies or so and fairly common since the nineties. Does that still count as a &quot;new trend&quot; in real estate?
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hackeraccount4 months ago
I&#x27;ve head that fire resistance and earthquake resistance work against each other. That the things that make a house fire resistant - stucco&#x2F;metal roofs - are bad for earthquakes and the things that make earthquake resistance - flexibility - are bad for fire resistance.<p>Reading just a bit it seems like the question is how you get that flexibility; the easy way would seem to be building with wood which is tricky with fires.<p>Any truth to this?
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nielsbot4 months ago
Reminds me of this story about this hurricane-resistant house left standing in Mexico Beach, FL after Hurricane Michael:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;14&#x2F;us&#x2F;hurricane-michael-florida-mexico-beach-house.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;14&#x2F;us&#x2F;hurricane-michael-flor...</a>
willsmith724 months ago
How does an airtight house work day-to-day? If I don&#x27;t open a window, how quickly am I poisoning myself?<p>Not knocking the idea, I&#x27;ve heard of them before and experienced the joy of triple pane glass (both in insulation and noise protection)
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iosguyryan4 months ago
Do you turn the HRV off during a wildfire to stop smoke intrusion from destroying the house?
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userbinator4 months ago
I&#x27;m curious what temperature its contents reached.
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fnord774 months ago
couldn&#x27;t houses be clad with something like Space Shuttle heat tiles?
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KevinMS4 months ago
weren&#x27;t these called &quot;superinsulated&quot; just a few weeks ago?
chmod7754 months ago
&quot;other construction material more fire resistant than plywood box held together by spit and prayer&quot;<p>How interesting.<p>In all seriousness you could make a home from almost anything else and it would end up being more fire resistant. The flammability of your average US suburb has to rank somewhere near 1944 Tokyo.
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sebmellen4 months ago
One thing I&#x27;m curious about is how the CO2 levels in these &quot;passive houses&quot; look. If there&#x27;s limited indoor to outdoor air exchange, wouldn&#x27;t they build up? Is there a scrubbing mechanism?
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Shank4 months ago
Of course, if you build a house with a tight envelope and reduce air circulation, you can easily have poor indoor air quality. You still need a strategy for this, and in my opinion, it’s very overlooked.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.researchgate.net&#x2F;publication&#x2F;273588438_Building_tight_-_Ventilating_right_How_are_new_air_tightness_standards_affecting_indoor_air_quality_in_dwellings" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.researchgate.net&#x2F;publication&#x2F;273588438_Building_...</a>
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