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Ask HN: Is discrete TPM worth it? with QubesOS/aem/heads/Intel-me disabled

2 pointsby PrimaryAlibi4 months ago
I couldn&#x27;t find info if disabling intel management engine with HAP bit or through bios settings will also disable the firmware TPM or intel TXT. If disabling intel ME doesn&#x27;t disable the latter two features then a discrete TPM is not necessary.<p>To be clear, I&#x27;m not talking about overwriting large parts of intel ME with zeros. This is only the simple way of setting the HAP bit or disabling it in BIOS settings.<p>QubesOS doesn&#x27;t require a TPM but qubesOS is often used with AEM or Heads. It&#x27;s also popular to disable intel ME. Both Heads and AEM requires a TPM. AEM also requires intel TXT.<p>This means if disabling intel ME also disables firmware TPM and intel TXT then it&#x27;s necessary to have a discrete TPM. So that is the main question here. I couldn&#x27;t find an answer, does anyone know and can link to the source for verification?<p>Maybe it&#x27;s also not possible or unecessary to disable intel ME if your CPU doesn&#x27;t have AMT. You can see of your CPU has AMT or not on intel&#x27;s website. So if it says there is not AMT feature, then it maybe means it&#x27;s uneccesary to get a discrete TPM?

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fsflover4 months ago
I&#x27;m using TMP with a Librem Key on my Librem 14 with a disabled ME just fine.