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Ask HN: Is there money in RAG?

11 pointsby tamersalama4 months ago
I see that the market strength of RAG-based solutions is in internal (proprietary) repositories of data.<p>I built a small one for publicly accessible documents but the models (or models with internet access) are gaining ground.<p>I wanted to hear more thoughts.

8 comments

bearjaws4 months ago
RAG is going to get eaten alive by Google, MS, and OpenAI.<p>The only way you will be able to beat them is in tiny niches, but when it comes to importing an organizations &quot;knowledge&quot; it will be hard to compete with the companies that already have it (O365, Google)
mooreds4 months ago
One data point. At $CURJOB, we pay good money for kapa.ai, which ingests our public documentation and other forms of data and serves up a chatbot.
softwaredoug4 months ago
For all those saying &quot;RAG is a feature&quot; I mean search is a &quot;feature&quot; of a bazillion systems, with Google, etc offering services to search over your data. And a thriving ecosystem of open source and commercial vendors. Search itself has vastly different user needs from job search, to ecommerce, to enterprise. PDFs aren&#x27;t products aren&#x27;t jobs and they all have very diverse use cases.<p>BUT - I do think its way way way overcrowded vendor market right now. The vector DB vendors are all RAG RAG RAG and have payed little attention to the fact they are actually a search solution focused on one type of index, and there are a million other applications of a search engine.<p>So its a crowded dumb market, but it probably has some kind of future.
muzani4 months ago
OpenAI already offers a limited RAG solution, and it&#x27;s only a matter of time before they&#x27;re a product.<p>I would have paid a good sum for it a year ago, but we figured it out. I think it&#x27;s like setting up databases. There was a market for that kind of consulting 15 years ago, but in the long run it might not be there.
borplk4 months ago
For those who may not know: &quot;Retrieval-augmented generation&quot;
verdverm4 months ago
In the market of AI solutions, RAG is a feature. The best way (imho) for small outfits is to have an existing expertise in a field and bring these tools to it. The big players will capture the generic, one-size-fits-all market. Specialized solutions for specific problems and industries is where it&#x27;s at. Also, don&#x27;t limit yourself to LLMs and RAG. There is a lot of other algorithms that are useful and provide value
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ldjkfkdsjnv4 months ago
Vertical specific RAG is a huge market
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JSTrading4 months ago
What? No it’s not