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Time to Take a Stand – Sam Altman (2017)

29 pointsby aarghh5 months ago

6 comments

jddj5 months ago
This sank fast.<p>In any case, the point about writing down the red lines was a good one.<p>I wonder if anyone did and what they were.
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utdiscant5 months ago
A lot of tech people seems to have changed their mind on this. Some ways to reason about that are:<p>1) They are doing it for opportunistic reasons. They can&#x27;t afford to be enemies with Trump.<p>2) They legitimately changed their opinion about a wide array of things they used to believe enough to outspoken about.<p>3) They believe that while Trump&#x27;s core beliefs are not aligned to theirs, the alternative is worse. And potentially they believe there is a need for some sorm of over-correction to fix what has happened over the last 4 years.
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jacknews5 months ago
Time to take <i>the</i> stand maybe, Sam.
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Jgoure5 months ago
He says &quot;In doing so, we should not demonize Trump voters&quot; because we will need them to fight Trump&#x27;s ideologies.<p>I&#x27;ve tried that, not demonizing trump voters. They won&#x27;t be on your side because you were kind to them. They will demonize you and join the side that they consider the strongest position.
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PaulHoule5 months ago
If there&#x27;s a problem that the left and center have it is that they are reactive, not proactive.<p>Benjamin Netanyahu is planning for 500 years from now when it won&#x27;t even be a memory that there was a population of Arabs in Israel.<p>&quot;Project 2025&quot; began in 1971 [1]<p>On the other hand, Democrats decided to dump Biden for Harris at the last minute possible. Sam Altman is saying we have to draw a line in the sand <i>now</i>. Peter Thiel has been drilling his well all this time. The center right paper <i>The Economist</i>, founded to advocate for free trade in 1843, is politically homeless in today&#x27;s UK.<p>There is no effective counter-movement against the far right; one can hypothesize reasons for that, one of them is that people like Altman should have been trying to make common cause with people who are further to the left than hecould stomach ten years ago, yet there is no promise that those people could get behind any movement at all. (I have to write up my experiences with &quot;vanguardism&quot;, I too used to believe that I could fly a flag and stake out a consistently radical position on every issue and people would group behind it, the leader of a black nationalist group gave me some tough love -- yet something similar seems to work for the right)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.greenpeace.org&#x2F;usa&#x2F;democracy&#x2F;the-lewis-powell-memo-a-corporate-blueprint-to-dominate-democracy&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.greenpeace.org&#x2F;usa&#x2F;democracy&#x2F;the-lewis-powell-me...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;english.elpais.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;2025-01-08&#x2F;renee-diresta-researcher-the-problem-is-not-misinformation-but-people-who-only-want-information-that-makes-them-feel-comfortable-and-happy.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;english.elpais.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;2025-01-08&#x2F;renee-dires...</a>
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ipunchghosts5 months ago
Lets ignore these fickle minded people. There is room in the ai&#x2F;ML space to transform dozens of fields that are completely out of the scope of these larger companies simply because they can&#x27;t make large enough profit margins to gain thier attention.<p>We need a 90s google like company that is in the ai ml business, not the ads business. It may not make billions, but it will surely make millions and push our society together in a meaningful way.
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