> DeepSeek leaned on the output of OpenAI’s models to help develop its own technology.<p>closedai's boss keeps saying it's for the "betterment of humanity" so he's either lying or chinese aren't people. Stealing from the entire internet didn't seem to bother him back then, weird
I think it would be impossible to not use output from OpenAI's models, since a significant fraction of new internet content is AI-generated. They are suffering from their own success.
OpenAI is laundering all published works and possible non-public as well, but they are "investigating whether data output from OpenAI’s technology was obtained in an unauthorised manner".<p>Investigate at home first:<p><a href="https://sfstandard.com/2024/06/13/telemedicine-adderall-vyvanse-ritalin-done-global-brody-he/" rel="nofollow">https://sfstandard.com/2024/06/13/telemedicine-adderall-vyva...</a><p><a href="https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/buterin-warren-join-trump-memecoin-bribery-vehicle-backlash/" rel="nofollow">https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/buterin-warren-jo...</a>
Really, who cares?<p>OpenAI has made the argument in the past that it couldn't exist without utilizing copyrighted works without permission and, as a net good for humanity, they should get a pass. Old dusty laws and authors rights should clearly take a backseat to innovation!<p>... except now the shoe is on the other foot where <i>suddenly</i> it's bad to use things without permission. If you were a proponent of AI and AI accelerationism then this should still be kosher since the "net good" has increased with a completely open source model that is apparently considerably more efficient.<p>The only remaining line of defense amounts to censorship concerns and/or "China bad," as if OpenAI also doesn't do the same and the US was a geopolitical darling.
after the deep seek release, banning open source models was an obvious outcome. you better git clone all the open source models but be careful bc microsoft will have that action in a log somewhere
Related:<p><i>Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained OpenAI Data</i><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42861150">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42861150</a>
Want to protect your investment bubble and moat? Simply steal. Steal TikTok.Steal DeepSeek. Steal boeing a few more years. Choose Life.<p>Maybe the upper crust of the oligarchy and its beloved caste of toolsmiths are a little inbred and weak when actual competition rears its head. Almost surprised by the free market.