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Apple iPhone sales dip despite AI rollout

27 pointsby colinprince4 months ago

25 comments

wronglebowski4 months ago
Apple has a reserved billboard right across the street from my apartment. Every time it changes I notice, Privacy ad, Sexy product photos, Shot on IPhone ads. Guess what it is now? AI Emoji, a hot dog holding a briefcase. I’m not surprised people aren’t impressed.
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Gud4 months ago
What do you mean, &#x27;despite&#x27;? I don&#x27;t want it. And it seems impossible to get away from theses &#x27;assistants&#x27;. I&#x27;m all the time reminded that I have somebody snooping on everything I do and say on my phone because it seems to me that Siri is impossible to get rid of. I know we are talking about &#x27;Apple Intelligence&#x27; but I am sure the same shit applies.<p>What happened to putting the user in control? At least in the OLD walled garden I got toggle the switches (mostly) myself.
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allenbina4 months ago
I feel like they would make a killing if they made a pro version that would be able to dock into a simplified desktop. I’ve been wanting this for years. They love taking a semi cooked idea and polishing it and this could make Samsung dex look like a child’s tool. I think a lot of this community would be interested in something like that. I like what they did with CarPlay, now they just need office play.
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gamesbrainiac4 months ago
Let&#x27;s be honest, there isn&#x27;t much of a difference between an iPhone 13 and 16. Why buy? I almost exclusively buy second hand these days.
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vishnugupta4 months ago
My first and only iPhone is 11 which is going very strong, 6th year running. It works as good as new, the physical device has taken its fair share of abuse but is nearly as good as new.<p>Every year I’ve been vaguely following iPhone launches which over index on camera capabilities and recently intelligence. And yet not once have I felt that I’m missing out on anything because honestly for my use what I have is perfect and will probably be like this for 5 more years.<p>I wonder what % of iPhone users are like this. Happy with their 11&#x2F;12&#x2F;13&#x2F;etc and see no reason to upgrade. I suppose the dip in sales is inevitable give this so maybe Apple needs a new entry level model to go after newer segments.
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lgleason4 months ago
The bigger issue is that the market is saturated with the only real growth opportunities in either taking Android market share or trying to get into developing countries where people are more price conscious.<p>Even as a mobile app developer, I have no need to upgrade hardware until my phone can no longer support the latest version of IOS. Sure the camera may get marginally better and you may miss out on 5g etc for a few years, but do I really need most of that? No.
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michaelhoney4 months ago
Apple is very keen, especially on iOS, for the user to be safe. There&#x27;s not a lot of freedom in the iOS world. And that totally works for most people most of the time.<p>A truly useful AI (which I have no doubt they are capable of building) is also a dangerous AI. It might do weird shit. So instead it&#x27;s stuck doing safe-but-trivial things.
blindriver4 months ago
AI on the iphone has been absolutely useless.<p>I was hoping they would integrate AI with Siri, which is mostly useless, but I don&#x27;t think they did because Siri remains mostly useless.<p>I don&#x27;t understand what their strategy is with AI.
weikju4 months ago
for some, s&#x2F;despite&#x2F;due to the&#x2F; perhaps
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lvturner4 months ago
I finally replaced my iPhone 14 with a Xiaomi Fold 4 - the ability to turn it in to a small tablet has been far more useful than I anticipated, I also appreciate easy side-loading of apps and multiple stores.<p>There are some cons, especially with using a phone aimed at the Chinese domestic market (not all features and UI are in English)<p>But so far it feels like a far more innovative and &#x27;free&#x27; ecosystem - iOS&#x2F;iPhone was starting to feel really stale to me.
nkrisc4 months ago
Still waiting for one worthy of replacing my 12 mini.
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pzo4 months ago
They could reignited sales if all iphones as base had 16GB Ram and 256GB storage. Also easy system wide integration with open source models - something like ollama +but also for TTS and STT. If they cannot make decent on the edge models and they make big release once a year they should allow easily bring open source models like ollama that have tight system integration for UI<p>Also their appleTV has a lot of potential but is wasted opportunity for them. Wish apple tv could replace router, backup server, wireless charging, smart speaker, vpn, private home cloud, private local ai models hosting - basically acting as home server similar like umbrelOS [0]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;umbrel.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;umbrel.com</a>
baggy_trough4 months ago
Apple Intelligence is terrible and there&#x27;s barely any reason to upgrade any more.
sampton4 months ago
Services saved the day. Apple needs to restart Siri from scratch.
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throwawa142234 months ago
Perhaps AI features make an object less desirable to the kind of person who purchases an iPhone?
akmarinov4 months ago
That AI rollout - only in the US<p>Apple&#x27;s three biggest markets - the US, China and Europe, we&#x27;re 6 months into iPhone 16 and they&#x27;ve barely covered the US. No wonder they&#x27;re down 11% in China.<p>All this time could&#x27;ve been spent on actually useful features.
oriel4 months ago
I havent personally tested it, but I also havent allowed it on my phone.<p>I figure either its time to drop the smartphone concept, as I barely use it for more than calls, or try to wait it out for them to realize I&#x2F;we didnt want or ask for it.
asciimov4 months ago
If they can’t innovate the technology they should innovate the design. I’m ready for a new style from Apple, something that looks different.
mbrumlow4 months ago
If you used it you should know how last minute crappy it is.<p>Whoever is running Apple now has really dropped the ball.<p>Maybe the ghost of Jobs had found pease and left.<p>They being said I think tech in general is failing. We see it at Google and other big companies.<p>My assessment is those who can code are finally outnumbered and out ranked by those who can’t code but want to get paid like people who can actually change the world. Business folks are winning and they will squeeze wifey last cent out before it is worthless.<p>No. I am not talking about entrepreneurs. I am talking about passionless MBAs who want to remove the art from making amazing products.
dyauspitr4 months ago
I keep getting updates but Siri is dumb as ever. Are the changes only on iPhone 16 and above?
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Vivtek4 months ago
Astonishing.
futybt4 months ago
Because* ftfy No one asked for it, we are all broke, and the truth is pissing in our faces. The truth being that we must never trust that built by the wealthy at the cost of the rest.
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xyst4 months ago
“Apple Intelligence” shit re-enables itself after every update too.
brundolf4 months ago
Apple Intelligence is a nothingburger so far. We&#x27;ll see if that changes with app intents, or if Siri ever actually gets better (it still mis-hears me on a regular basis!), but I&#x27;m getting pessimistic
singularity20014 months ago
&quot;despite&quot; &quot;AI&quot;