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New Proofs Probe the Limits of Mathematical Truth

94 pointsby headalgorithm3 months ago

4 comments

empath753 months ago
Something that may not be clear when reading this is the distinction between complex numbers and the ring of integers adjoined with <i>i</i>.<p>&quot;Complex numbers&quot; are of the form a+bi where a and b can be any real number -- 1, 5, pi, the square root of 2, -2.14, etc.<p>The ring of integers adjoined with <i>i</i> are numbers of the form a+bi where a and b are both integers (-1, 5, 34, etc).<p>You can also, in addition to using <i>i</i>, adjoin any real number to the integers and get a new field with numbers of the form a+bx where a and b are integers and x is any additional number you want to add-- frequently square roots like the square root of two.<p>This result shows undecidability of diophantine equations in all those fields of integers, but not complex numbers, for which it&#x27;s easy to prove that there are _always_ solutions.
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coldcode3 months ago
Math is such an interesting field. People can work for decades and not make progress, then discover something in a moment of clarity from some seemingly unrelated problem. As a programmer, I don&#x27;t have that type of patience.
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wslh3 months ago
Could Matiyasevich&#x27;s result be viewed in the same vein as Turing’s Halting Problem, but in an even more compact form regarding the limits of mathematics and logic? Diophantine equations are expressed in a simpler form than Turing machines, which makes the size and expressiveness of the problem particularly interesting for study.
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dooglius3 months ago
&gt; Where is the cutoff<p>Is there a reason to believe there is a &quot;cutoff&quot;? As in, do we know that if the undecidability property holds for some ring A, then it holds for every subring of A?
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