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Trump's firing of the U.S. government archivist is far worse than it might seem

220 pointsby rendx3 months ago

15 comments

anonzzzies3 months ago
Everything that guy does is far worse than it might seem; wonder why no-one seems to care&#x2F;do something as it&#x27;s clear (and always was BECAUSE HE SAID SO before and during the elections) that normal procedures are not going to work. You would think if this was reversed, the right would be &#x27;slightly more vocal&#x27; (and not only vocal). Or maybe it&#x27;s just &#x27;coloured&#x27; news (I am not in the US), but these things <i>are</i> happening and people are still thinking it&#x27;s a good thing &#x27;nice and forceful&#x27; or whatnot.<p>Anyway, scary when seen from across the pond, but I really don&#x27;t know what&#x27;s real and what&#x27;s not. In my defence; I have US friends who tell me it&#x27;s every bit as real and scary as the news tells it. They are, of course, not trump voters nor extremist left&#x2F;right.
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kiwih3 months ago
Not always one for pithy remarks, but the quote from George Orwell seems prescient here: &quot;Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m not American, but FTA it sounds like having a politically biased NARA director could have some interesting consequences for the formal parts of all y&#x27;all future electoral matters.
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muddi9003 months ago
I don&#x27;t think these posts are being flagged in good faith.
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jimswhims3 months ago
What I&#x27;d like to know is: who&#x27;s flagging legitimate articles like this, and why..?
xtiansimon3 months ago
This undermines governmental transparency. Whatever else happens, this is a turning point.
bananapub3 months ago
it really is fascinating to see how many people actually don&#x27;t believe in the rule of law or functional democracy and were just pretending in the past to get to this moment. this includes apparently all congressional republicans and most of the management of Valley VC companies.<p>I&#x27;m not sure why dang in particular is allowing this to happen to this site.
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nabla93 months ago
This will be soon [Flagged][Dead] because reasons.
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insane_dreamer3 months ago
One of the most dangerous aspects of actions like this is not only the present impact but the future impact, as future presidents from either party might now decide to fill non-political positions (like record keeping) with political &quot;loyalists&quot;.<p>This is extremely detrimental to a democracy.
smy200113 months ago
Looks like the beginning of the downfall of America.
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caspper693 months ago
Had a talk with a pretty dyed in the wool MAGA supporter about the birthright citizenship situation.<p>I was like you can’t just knock down a constitutional amendment with an executive order, even if you do agree with it.<p>He was incredulous. The president has that authority and the courts can’t stop him.<p>I was like ok, by that logic, a Dem president could sign away free speech and the second amendment the same way.<p>Still don’t think he could reconcile my point.
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yosito3 months ago
At what point does someone step in to stop Trump from dismantling the US government completely? Or is it already too late?
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benmmurphy3 months ago
It’s weird the archivist has no idea why she might have been fired. From Trump’s POV it looked like the NARA conspired with parts of the last executive to create the documents case against him. This might be false but even if it’s false she must be aware that this would be Trump’s reasoning. Ah. I misread she said she was provided with no cause instead of she not knowing the cause.
ralusek3 months ago
I&#x27;m extremely sympathetic to the objectives of DOGE, and still find this all to be some of the most unsettling behavior I&#x27;ve ever seen. I was somewhat relieved to hear Musk and Trump say yesterday that they intended to comply with judges&#x27; orders, but I don&#x27;t know. I&#x27;m not a lawyer, and can&#x27;t speak to the legality of any of this, but this isn&#x27;t worth throwing away the rule of law over.<p>I just hope that if they leave anything in their wake, it&#x27;s a system of transparency and neutrality, but firing an archivist doesn&#x27;t sound like the place to start. We unfortunately have a window into Musk&#x27;s commitment to neutrality and transparency from his own running of X, and while it may be better than it was before on those fronts, he has demonstrated time and again that he&#x27;s not particularly strong on either.
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coffeebeanHH3 months ago
I don&#x27;t get it. There are so many voices saying that Trump is bad and Musk is bad. Why not just kick Musks dumb ass out of the door when he wants to raid another Server?<p>Just imprison the president and his loyal stuff inside White House with all electronics removed, no comms outside and just a guy bringing some food ever so often.<p>Better just wait 4 years than get everything dismantled even further. In the end only Musk wins and he might &quot;flee&quot; to another country when shit hits the fan.
austin-cheney3 months ago
And now we in the military must sit here and wait for our Stalin-like purge following any collision of lawfulness and the leader’s desires.
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