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AI can interpret animal emotions better than humans

104 pointsby marojejian3 months ago

19 comments

jaharios3 months ago
While Humans can be seen as the most intelligent, we are hyper focused on &quot;human way of thinking&quot; in a way that we lose our &quot;basic&quot; instincts and abilities that other animal have.<p>My dog can understand my voice tone and emotions way better than I can understand hers, also animals can understand the difference sounds we make (words) that affect them, way better than our understanding of animals sounds.<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong we can make tools and we can experiment and be able to suppress all other animals. But a solo, &quot;naked&quot; human is like an office worker in world of manual labor.
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block_dagger3 months ago
Misleading HN title. The article says AI can predict stress better than humans and only poses the question of general emotions.
gizajob3 months ago
Correction - AI can interpret <i>videos</i> of animal emotions (recorded under controlled conditions) better than humans (allegedly).
Dotnaught3 months ago
We can understand animal emotions (mammals at least) reasonably well if we choose to try, and even in the absence of understanding, we can assume, for example, that caged animals would rather be elsewhere. But self-interest (or economic interest) often makes it more convenient to ignore what&#x27;s obvious.
egberts13 months ago
But AI is currently failing at American Sign Language, notably at facial expressions, miserably.<p>Yes, we are working on that but I see writing on the wall and it is not soon enough.
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trebligdivad3 months ago
I bet someone will turn that to Horse race betting then based on the look of the horses before&#x2F;at the start of the race.
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farleykr3 months ago
Maybe if we spent more time learning how to interpret animal emotions than we do building AI to do it for us the title would read vice versa.
harimau7773 months ago
I wonder if it&#x27;s possible that what is actually happening is that human ability to understand animals is not optimized towards &quot;understanding objectively what the animal is feeling&quot; so much as it is optimized towards &quot;understanding how to get them to do what we want.&quot;<p>Assuming that a significant portion of our ability to understand animal behavior comes from evolutionary instinct or ancestral folklore, then it seems reasonable that the result might be highly pragmatic. For example, our ancestors may have only cared about identifying whether a dog was communicating sufficient submissiveness to indicate that it would follow orders. Whether that submissiveness came from love or fear of punishment may not have been important.
simianparrot3 months ago
If humans don’t understand animals how do we evaluate whether the language model does..?
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taytus3 months ago
This type of headline is like: &#x27;computers are better than humans at chess!&#x27; Like... isn&#x27;t this something obvious by now?
SinePost3 months ago
&gt; “But it turns out there aren’t that many pictures of dogs and cats and sheep on the internet”—at least not ones where it’s clear how the animals are feeling, he says.<p>Sheep I can understand -- most people online are urban and the people who upload the most are urban -- but it also was difficult to find relevant pictures of housepets?
eternityforest3 months ago
For some reason a lot of people seem think animals are smiling, when they&#x27;re making what seems like a pretty obvious distressed face, in a situation one would imagine is distressing.
RobertDeNiro3 months ago
Doesn’t take a phd to know that those pigs are unhappy.
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anon-39883 months ago
Humans are clearly bad at analyzing other people emotions based on how much misunderstanding there are out there. Just look at how bad people are in relationships. Someone shared their experience in an event talking to a girl. I just listened, thinking, &quot;Do they not realize that you were clearly in the wrong here?&quot;.
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spicy-punk-fog3 months ago
AI hype is right at its equivalent of Radium Chocolate stage of nuclear physics today
taurknaut3 months ago
...than untrained humans, presumably, because otherwise how would you produce the model?
jon9544hn3 months ago
Mention of an app, but no references. Does anyone know of it?
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d--b3 months ago
Says who? The cows?
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blogabegonija3 months ago
Then AI is ready and can into U.S presidency.