Worth noting that the U.S. Digital Service (USDS, i.e the org that DOGE has now subsumed) has for a long while been experts at building and deploying static websites for the federal government. And doing it completely in the open. Within minutes you can literally clone and re-deploy all of httsp://usds.gov — 150MB of 2,700 assets and documents, built on Jekyll — locally or on S3. They've even written out the complete deployment instructions:<p><a href="https://github.com/usds/website">https://github.com/usds/website</a>
Does anyone want to talk about the hack itself? Can anyone give more details than "left their database open"? I came to this site hoping for a real discussion about that and didn't see it here yet...
They claimed the savings site would show receipts not later than Valentine's Day<p><a href="https://www.doge.gov/savings" rel="nofollow">https://www.doge.gov/savings</a><p>Now it says "Receipts coming over the weekend!"<p>Next time it's: The site is receipt-ready
Maybe they should fire these kids and replace them with REAL engineers.<p>And I know some of those kids probably read Hackernews, so here’s the advice: put away ChatGPT and learn what the fuck you’re doing.
Does anyone else see what’s really going on here? Naming a “government agency” after a meme coin? Wearing a hat in the Oval Office while talking over the (literally) sitting president? Elon is attempting to telegraph that he has no respect for the institutions of our country. Why do you think Trump did something as petty as renaming the Gulf of Mexico? It’s a litmus test to see who will follow his most inane power plays. Today, it was put into action when they banned the AP from the Oval Office and AF1 for not bending the knee on this issue. This is far darker than Elon just running amok.
If I click Join I am immediately redirected to a "Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access doge.gov" CloudFlare page. That's odd.
Wondering why DOGE articles where we apparently are leaking classified info over the internet are being flagged.<p>This for example: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43051135">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43051135</a><p>(EDIT: Looks like others are wondering too: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43050833">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43050833</a>)
Every other intelligence agency on the planet is about to scoop a ton of American data via cyber and basic HUMINT. It's free for all out there, I guess.
I am wondering if it would have been more of an effect to
instead of this add some DEI trolling ... April 1st level of foolery so people think it is real and then get Twitter riled up on it.
Trump/Elon fascism/heroism (depending on your point of view) aside, one thing that concerns me is how quickly is it possible to decide that 1000 employees at a place like the Department of Energy, including 300 at the National Nuclear Security Administration, can be dismissed without any impact on the effectiveness of these agencies.<p>Even if you do believe that these agencies are bloated with workers who are doing "unnecessary" work, which is possible, it seems very unprudent to make cuts so quickly. And who is qualified to make these decisions? Elon? Some Tesla or SpaceX engineer who wrote some code and put up a website? Come on. WTF do they know about how all these agencies operate and the downstream effects? You think they're taking the time to really think it through?<p>Now it's possible that prior to taking office, Trump had people with deep understanding of government operations go through everything, and really think things through, and prepare a list of jobs that could be cut without any impact, but if that is the case, it's never been said. Given who Trump has around him to lead these agencies (McMahon for Dept of Ed? An Oil and Gas Lobbyist for BLM? Really?) that doesn't seem likely.<p>Move fast and break things works fine for a start-up, and might even be fine for more cultural type stuff ("DEI"), but Dept of Energy?<p>It's like firing two-thirds of your sysadmins because "well, we haven't had any issues with our servers lately, and no breaches, so those people must not be needed".
It looks like the defacement was already cleared, but archives are available [0][1]. I posted these separately because of 404Media's soft-paywall, which is also linked separately here.<p>[0]: <a href="https://archive.md/XzvTY" rel="nofollow">https://archive.md/XzvTY</a><p>[1]: <a href="https://archive.md/cMeco" rel="nofollow">https://archive.md/cMeco</a>
Sorry off topic, but isn't that x.com plastered on every single post not a flagrant conflict of interest? I mean other government sites subtly have a link to social media hidden somewhere and from multiple platforms basically x.com and Meta.
<a href="https://balajis.com/p/americas-175-trillion-problem" rel="nofollow">https://balajis.com/p/americas-175-trillion-problem</a><p>Might have something to do with all this.
Pretty gross to think of these people doing code reviews for projects they have no familiarity with - along with of course this bafflingly incompetent tweet: <a href="https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961#m" rel="nofollow">https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961#m</a> Donald Trump said DOGE were "super-geniuses," and according to his standards they probably are.<p>(The way Trump's election directly led to "retard" being a common pejorative again hasn't been discussed enough. Just awful.)
It took <i>twelve hours</i> to get one of the vandalized pages taken down.<p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/pxtl.ca/post/3li5vddrkw227" rel="nofollow">https://bsky.app/profile/pxtl.ca/post/3li5vddrkw227</a>
Wonder if the pitchforks will come out this year or the next?<p>So many programs and jobs have been gutted so the orange man and his kleptocracy cabinet can get their $4.5T in tax cuts for the ultra wealthy [1]<p>I’m not impacted but this shit is really tiring. It’s painful to see American public be so ignorant and buy into the neoclassical economic lies.<p>[1] <a href="https://apnews.com/article/house-republicans-budget-blueprint-trump-tax-cuts-ff2bddf31f4e7cb0928139072392a091" rel="nofollow">https://apnews.com/article/house-republicans-budget-blueprin...</a>
It's a "team" of junior hackers. What do you expect? I don't quite understand the motive. I mean the motive of the masses who cheer this on. Is it just to own the libs? They have to all be evil or completely misinformed. I assume most are ignorant and only a few are evil.
Unauthorized access or modification of any government website, even if it is left openly accessible, is illegal under laws such as the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) in the U.S.
I wonder if Trump ordered all the F22s to be flown into the ground, the aircraft carriers to be run aground, would anyone do anything? What about blowing up all the government buildings?<p>How does Musk get to destroy millions of dollars of investment? These are all government assets. What the fuck is going on here?
Who here has listened to Elon/Trump extensively (and not opinions by news outlets) and has concluded that they are doing net damage?<p>My opinion: Some mistakes will be made but remedied. But overall it's a net positive. As to how much of a positive it is, it need to be see. If the income tax, property tax (and other unavoidable taxes) are eliminated, I'd say America is greater again.
You're all overreacting. This is a poster for a government agency. <a href="https://xkcd.com/932/" rel="nofollow">https://xkcd.com/932/</a>
Musk has said that he like Xavier Milei's way of "deleting" government departments without too much investigation of their importance because if they're important, you can always put them back. He's probably taking a similar approach with DOGE. Some researchers and aid organizations lose their funding today but if they really are important and not just grift, they or their successors will probably get it back later. This isn't like social welfare where people might starve if their regular payment is stopped. Nobody's going to starve if research funding is cut. Researchers might have to get another job but that's an expected and normal part of life, especially for academics.
“So rather than having a physical server or even something like Amazon Web Services, they’re deploying using Cloudflare Pages which supports custom domains.”<p>So? Also, the distinction is moot.
Not a good look, when you're doing a blitz of obviously criminally -- <i>treasonously</i> -- reckless things.<p>It's harder for supporters to even pretend that you're even minimally competent.
It is insane how tone deaf most of the comments are, jarring even. I forget how insular so much of the community is and I often make the mistake of equating intelligence, which exists here in spades, with critical thought.<p>Understand that most of the sentiment expressed here is identical to the pre-digested mass media pablum intended for 100 IQ consumers.<p>Think of mass media coverage of a subject you're an expert in and how horrifyingly wrong it typically is on so many levels, and try to rectify the two.
Is it me or mods are actively hiding everything that is critical of the current admin? This post is 6 hours late, 308 points and at the bottom of the 3rd page. This is not the first post that is either flagged or just made invisible. Is HN still a place we can trust?
so most people here are salty about Doge actually delivering on transparency, albeit imperfectly, vs promises and SLS style multi billion "effort" unable to deliver for decades?<p>mind you, it's totally legit to ridicule the noob security lapses, but the rest of the sentiment here seems a bit meh
The doge.gov website is just amazing. You can browse through the entire org chart of a typical government, average age of employees, avg salary in that department and so on. I hope they upload this data on GitHub and open sources for the future keeping. I am becoming fairly certain that all these will be removed when ruling party changes. Doge guys truly rock for doing this.<p>And now, keep in mind that US govt is likely still way more "efficient" than most others on the planet.
Lots of government websites are vulnerable early on.<p>Hope they used good proxies, because this seems like a felony.<p>> One of the sources told 404 Media that they were able to push updates to a database of government employment information after studying the website’s architecture and finding the database’s API endpoints.<p>Oof, not something to put in your article.