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Ask HN: Whats the rational behind flooding mail-servers with random deliveries

1 pointsby t3122273 months ago
hello,<p>in the last few years i&#x27;m observing some recurring pattern on my mail-server system (SMTP):<p>every now &amp; then, its gets &quot;flooded&quot; by lots and lots of invalid delivery-attempts for at least multiple days up to multiple weeks at a time with the following characteristics:<p># low number of delivery-attempts - only one about every 10 seconds<p># with <i>a lot</i> of recipients for each single delivery - hitting the max recipient limit of the system<p># originating from random ipv4-addresses<p># the delivery uses random but &quot;valid&quot;-looking source-addresses<p># targeting valid domains on the mail-system itself<p># but using random &#x2F; invalid (!) recipient-addresses - eg. the &quot;local&quot; part<p>don&#x27;t get me wrong, i&#x27;m not looking for &quot;technical advice&quot;, i&#x27;m more than capable to handle such lets call it &quot;minor annoyances&quot; all by myself.<p>but i ask myself the following questions for several years now:<p>what is the &quot;rational&quot; behind this!?<p>whats the &quot;object&quot; for people doing this!?<p>eg. whats the &quot;gain&quot; or the &quot;business-proposal&quot; in doing this!?<p>any ideas!?<p>cheers!! :))<p>ps. sure ... the first idea would be: DDOS, but the frequency of the delivery-attempts is not even close to achieve anything like that ... even if my server-system would be based on some older raspberry pis it wouldn&#x27;t have much impact ;))

2 comments

jfil3 months ago
There are a lot of services that &quot;guess&quot; valid email addresses for a given business contact. (Think: I have a B2B decision maker&#x27;s LinkedIn contact info, and I want to cold-email them. What could be their email address?) Think Kitt AI or Rocket Reach. There are also &quot;email validators&quot; that check if your email list is still good.
kazinator3 months ago
Sounds like they&#x27;re just trying to brute force addresses. Sometimes their guesses will hit a valid address. And in those cases they can tell from the server&#x27;s response, and can then harvest the address.<p>If the address is the probe fit certain patterns, the mail server can have rules to look for those and black hole the host.