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September 17, 1787: "A Republic, If You Can Keep It"

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mullingitover3 months ago
This is very timely, and reminds me of George Washington <i>pleading</i> for Americans to beware party politics in his farewell address[1], where he willingly surrendered power and went home:<p>&gt; The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation on the ruins of public liberty.<p>&gt; ...It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.<p>He could&#x27;ve written this last week.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.senate.gov&#x2F;artandhistory&#x2F;history&#x2F;resources&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;Washingtons_Farewell_Address.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.senate.gov&#x2F;artandhistory&#x2F;history&#x2F;resources&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;W...</a>
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jmyeet3 months ago
Spoiler: we could not in fact keep it.<p>The US &quot;experiment&quot; is touted as a success but it demonstrably is not. Less than 80 years after this utterance, the country descended into a Civil War, then the most deadly war ever fought. The US was founded on white supremacy and chattel slavery. Chattel slavery may be gone but slavery is alive and well in the form of convict leasing. And of course white supremacy is resurgent.<p>As someone wh grew up in the 70s, 80s and 90s, I rreally wish there was a way for younger people to experience that. There were problems, of course. The Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation loomed large. Homophobia was worse. Racism was worse.<p>Many, myself included, describe the 1990s as the last good decade. Standard-of-living peaked in 1972 [1] but even in the 1990s, things were still pretty good. Rent was cheap, housing was cheap, food was cheap. There were houses in the 1990s for under $100k that now sell for $2M+. I lived frugally but comfortably on $10k&#x2F;year as a student, including renting a 2 bedroom apartment.<p>I cannot adequately express my view of how dire things are now. We are bouldering towards neofeudalism. There is no opposition. Nobody is coming to save us.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pewresearch.org&#x2F;short-reads&#x2F;2018&#x2F;08&#x2F;07&#x2F;for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pewresearch.org&#x2F;short-reads&#x2F;2018&#x2F;08&#x2F;07&#x2F;for-most-...</a>
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chiph3 months ago
If you get the chance to visit Independence Hall in Philadelphia, it&#x27;s a must-see. Book your tickets in advance as they frequently sell out.
relaxing3 months ago
A couple interesting references in this article-<p>- The constitutional debate with Elbridge Gerry (MA), the name behind Gerrymandering<p>- The proposal to increase the size of the House of Representatives from one representative for every 40,000 people to one for every 30,000, which if continued today would make it much harder to gerrymander, among other things.
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dllthomas3 months ago
It seems relevant to keep in mind that, IIUC, Octavian believed (or pretended to believe) that he was saving the Roman republic.
aqueueaqueue3 months ago
Quite the sliding door moment
jmclnx3 months ago
It is too bad the current crop of pols are ignoring all these documents and setting up to steal assets from working and poor people.
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