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Mozilla's new Terms of Use causes confusion among Firefox users

32 pointsby xiaoyu20063 months ago

5 comments

WarOnPrivacy3 months ago
Specifically, it&#x27;s boilerplate to prevent Firefox for being dinged for bog-standard browser behavior, presumably in jurisdictions where that might be a possibility.<p>Here&#x27;s the clarification from Mozilla:<p><pre><code> We need a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible. Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example. It does NOT give us ownership of your data or a right to use it for anything other than what is described in the Privacy Notice. The new policy merely allows Firefox to function as it always did, to help users visit web pages, allow the browser permission to store your personal information such as form data, or to access a file that you wanted to upload to a website.</code></pre>
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ParetoOptimal3 months ago
If Mozilla wants to limit their use of my input, *why the do I need to give them a full, non-exclusive license*?
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perks_123 months ago
Oh, nonono, there is absolutely no confusion. Firefox starts selling your data, that is all there is. Look at these changes [0]. This is not some legal ass covering, either you get paid for user data or you don&#x27;t. Mozilla just cleared the way for that to happen. Now there is no reason left to stay on Firefox, we can all just enjoy the speedy yet stable poison of our overlords at Google. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;bedrock&#x2F;commit&#x2F;d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#diff-a24e74e4595fa85440a2f4e7e5dcfe68aba6e1e593aef05a2d35581a91423847L65">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;bedrock&#x2F;commit&#x2F;d459addab846d8144b...</a>
mozball3 months ago
I am sorry but it is possible to write a privacy policy or Terms of Use that is clear, concise and reassuring to users. If a statement or word is confusing they can use the next sentence to clarify what that means. Whatever ambiguity in wording is clearly intentional on Mozilla&#x27;s part. For what? Maybe for their new AI play (mozilla.ai) or their impending integration of &quot;Privacy-Preserving-Ads&quot; .[1][2]<p>Firefox is being enshittified.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30305770">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30305770</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41311479">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41311479</a>
GuestFAUniverse3 months ago
Whenever a PR department of an authoritative side is speaking of &quot;confusion&quot;, I call it BS.<p>The onus is on them to use clear phrases. A dialogue would be alright (We meant... You interpret... Let&#x27;s rephrase...). But single-handedly blaming the other side? Considering that amount of backslash? That&#x27;s nothing but lame.