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The housing theory of everything (2021)

301 pointsby lifeisstillgood2 months ago

33 comments

tptacek2 months ago
These are the macro effects of housing. I buy all of them. I&#x27;m a housing activist involved in local politics in Oak Park, IL (one of Chicago&#x27;s two equivalents of Berkeley or Brooklyn, the suburb of Evanston being the other). Some micro&#x2F;local impacts of housing restriction:<p>* Retail business stagnation; retail is dependent on foot traffic, and SFZ residents do not understand what it takes to support the kinds of businesses (yoga studies, coffee shops, art galleries, bookshops) that they actually want to see sited near them. The result is that city plans for commercial corridors create near-blighted streets with gas stations, vacant lots, and the occasional nail salon or Domino&#x27;s Pizza.<p>* Public safety issues; those same underutilized commercial drags are <i>dead</i> once the sun goes down; without people walking on the streets, nobody&#x27;s watching, and you can see on a map clearly where crime gravitates.<p>* Escalating property taxes; lots of people want to retire in the same community they spent their adult lives in, but in an overwhelmingly SFZ muni with good schools, the top bidder on any residential lot is a family with school-aged children. Schools make up over half (in our case, 2&#x2F;3) of the property tax burden, and it gets worse as the demographics shift more and more to school-aged families who move out when their kids graduate high school; housing diversity could give retirees an economically rational place to move (and remain in the tax base), but we outlaw it.<p>The problem with all this stuff is you start to sound like a crank, because almost every problem a typical urban muni faces will probably stem from many generations of outlawing housing.
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klipt2 months ago
Henry George wrote about this a hundred years ago in Progress and Poverty! His solution: a tax on land (not buildings) to encourage building up. Economists say it&#x27;s one of the most efficient taxes possible.
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matt32102 months ago
Those holding the homes have an interest in making the problem worse. Those buying homes make the assumption of the problem getting worse. Those who complain about the cost will reverse their position when they buy.<p>The issue is that everyone involved wants the problem to get worse.
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Klaus232 months ago
It seems paradoxical to me that the only &quot;solution&quot; to housing shortages, which exist because the area is too attractive in large part because of the availability of jobs, is to build more houses and thus make the area more attractive to businesses because of the increased availability of workers. It looks like a battle against windmills that is bound to get out of hand. Efforts to alleviate the problem only exacerbate it.<p>It would be interesting to see if the shortage could be reduced by taking a different approach and making the area less attractive. For example, you could tax businesses much more if they are located in very dense areas, or even just limit the total revenue of all businesses in a certain area. Such things would have their own problems and challenges, of course, but there are few economic problems as bad as the housing crisis, and there is more than enough land to go around.
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rwyinuse2 months ago
At least in my country I&#x27;ve seen so many young people move to cities to get a better education, only to end up unemployed or working a dead-end job, as they&#x27;re competing with all other young grads who did the same in a stagnating economic environment.<p>The winning play, at least over here, is to move to a city just for the education, and then moving back to the countryside &#x2F; smaller city with cheaper housing and less competing job applicants. The salary difference isn&#x27;t that bad, for some professions (doctors, psychologists etc) working in rural areas actually pays more, as employers are raising salaries to find applicants.
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freen2 months ago
The “screw you, I got mine” culture is killing us.<p>People who bought houses enabled by zoning changes refuse to allow zoning changes that will increase the price of their own home because why?<p>Racism and a fundamental failure to understand economics.
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ziofill2 months ago
The thing I hate the most about not being able to afford a home is that rent is sky high and it makes it basically impossible to have another kid. Not without significant problems and risks at least.
notepad0x902 months ago
There is no shortage of land, there is a shortage of efficient transportation. All this talk of building up and creative ideas around housing is great but the ultimate problem is transportation. To solve the problem of housing in LA, a person should be able to live in Reno,Nevada and work somewhere in Santa Monica, CA. I&#x27;m not saying I have a solution, I&#x27;m just pointing out the problem domain.<p>The US does not have modern transportation infrastructure like similarly sized countries like China. Generally speaking, housing is built near bodies of water or alongside transportation towards bodies of water. Even issues like NIMBYism can be resolved by constructing underground bullet trains that won&#x27;t affect appearances. This is a hard problem, but not an unsolvable problem. It isn&#x27;t just economies of scale, government investment, clever economic strategies,etc.. that are needed but actual revolutions in construction technology and transportation. Timelines for construction that are only few years not decades. But alas, I fear the politics of these days would not allow for this.
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enaaem2 months ago
Derek Guy once wrote about why Japan has so many artisans thanks to the lower rent and higher density.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web-cdn.bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;did:plc:ks3gpa6ftoyaq7hmf6c4qx4c&#x2F;post&#x2F;3lbvx4ci3qk2l" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web-cdn.bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;did:plc:ks3gpa6ftoyaq7hmf6c...</a>
Apreche2 months ago
I would tell the same story, but the root issue is cars. Housing density would have remained high if not for car dominance.
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4fterd4rk2 months ago
The NIMBY people know what they&#x27;re doing. They know that restricting the supply of housing is bad for society. They don&#x27;t care because it is good for their own personal financial position.<p>I&#x27;m sick of these posts thinking that these people are stupid and if we could just explain to them the consequences of their actions this would all be fixed. No. They KNOW. It is intentional.
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dang2 months ago
Discussed at the time:<p><i>The Housing Theory of Everything</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28531025">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28531025</a> - Sept 2021 (80 comments)
econ2 months ago
My thought was that it doesn&#x27;t matter what houses cost. It is merely an exchange of money for bricks. Neither party needs to lose money in the transaction. Houses require maintenance which is partially unpredictable but can be smoothened out by insurance. The party holding the bricks will have to pay for that.<p>Government can do a credit rating that partially depends on the economic value you bring to the region. This should sufficiently pump up the credit possibly making it cheaper than the construction cost.<p>You can also arrange a place to retire in advance and make it part of the contact.<p>The houses closest to the factory ideally have employees living there. A 10 min walk is economically preferable over a two hour drive. The extra time can be spend doing valuable things at home but it should also make working overtime less of an issue. Sending people home for a few hours in the middle of the shift at reduced rates shouldn&#x27;t anger people as much.<p>I recall how no one I knew was able to afford a home. People got really careless from it. They didn&#x27;t give a fuck about anything. One guy managed to buy a crappy one but couldn&#x27;t afford the maintenance. He exited with 150 k profit which was 400-500 months salary. He spend it on booze and drugs.
BrenBarn2 months ago
I tend to think that housing shortages are more a result of inequality than a cause of it. The large disparities in wealth result in a situation where a disproportionate amount of land is controlled by a relatively small number of people. Those landowners may be fine with owning &quot;trophy&quot; properties that do not produce any income stream but take up a lot of land that could be used for housing a lot more people. Also in some areas an increasing amount of &quot;housing&quot; is not used as housing but rented out as AirBnBs.<p>Simply allowing landowners to build more housing on their existing land, and thus increase the value of that land even more, will exacerbate this inequality. Again and again I see unaffordable housing built because the developers complain that they cannot make a profit otherwise. I am suspicious of &quot;solutions&quot; to housing that amount to &quot;remove regulations to allow rich people to build in a way that increases their wealth&quot;. Instead of <i>allowing</i> greater density, we need to <i>require</i> greater density, i.e., go to people who currently own a lot of land saying &quot;Either you build a lot of housing on this land, even if it causes you to lose money, or you forfeit the land.&quot;<p>The housing shortage should be reduced by <i>taking</i> from those who already have a lot, not giving more to them.
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tippytippytango2 months ago
A big issue with all this housing wealth is that it&#x27;s fake. If a good business goes up 10x in value, it accomplishes that by providing more valuable goods and services to people. If a house goes up 10x in value, that could only be achieved by ensuring supply grows slower than demand. The house didn&#x27;t produce any net positive for society, actually the opposite. The owner is being rewarded for figuring out how to increase demand for their house while providing nothing in exchange to the broader world. It&#x27;s a serious bug in capitalism that we call this &quot;building wealth&quot; it should be called &quot;building scarcity&quot;. Might as well hoard bitcoins.
nobodywillobsrv2 months ago
Anyone else frustrated that this discussion always goes &#x27;housing cost → effect&#x27; and not at all &#x27;interesting new effects → housing&#x27;?<p>We all know about interest rates, credit access, and supply—but what we don&#x27;t hear enough about is the structure and dynamics of &#x27;bad areas.&#x27;<p>If you could suddenly flip a switch and make &#x27;bad people&#x27; turn into nice, agreeable, conscientious neighbors, wouldn&#x27;t that instantly solve the housing crisis?<p>Of course, this gets political, but that&#x27;s exactly why I crave a publication that treads the line and engages a broad range of meat blobs.<p>Perhaps this is a problem more in Europe and not the US. I&#x27;m not sure how many areas in the US would be good locations if they were not so crummy. In the UK, it feels like one faces trading off paying for &quot;nice&quot; vs dealing with crummy and trying to predict which areas will become nicer in the next five years.
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ty68532 months ago
Trades licensing, tightening codes, inspections,zoning, inspection, planning, environmental regulation, and water&#x2F;well shenanigans are the reason for unaffordable housing. Plenty of cheap land near jobs, land not a meaningful constraint.<p>By bypassing most all these and DIYing a house I was able to build a house for well under 100&#x2F;sqft.
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ddxv2 months ago
China built so much housing they actually have an oversupply problem and housing prices finally went down, which is good for the people at the bottom end that want to buy housing. The people who bought as investments pushed back and now China is correcting back the other direction.<p>Interesting to see that play out and think about what kinds of housing we need to build to make it happen. Bay Area cities building a few &#x27;below market rate&#x27; 6 story apartment buildings isn&#x27;t going to cut it.<p>One other big factor to mention is that many places seem to ONLY sell what the US calls condos, ie each apartment is sold to an individual. I think this is a much better system.
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mlsu2 months ago
The key is to not focus on the money. The money flows in one direction, but the economy (things that people choose to do; where they spend their time, how they get around, etc) flows in the other direction. In some sense, money is a symbol which represents real economic activity.<p>From there. Looking at just the real life things that are happening and deliberately leaving out any mention of money:<p>- there aren&#x27;t enough places for people to live near jobs. Employers have a hard time finding workers, because workers can&#x27;t afford to live nearby. Productivity suffers.<p>- people have to spend a long time commuting to their job, which means they spend a lot of time in their cars. Big waste of time!<p>- the housing that is out there, is very old and not suitable for many people. People who should be living alone in a small studio take roommates and live in a single family home, because there is no inventory of studios for them. People&#x27;s lives are worse because of this, their built environment isn&#x27;t what they want it to be.<p>- people who want to start a family and live in a small house on their own, can&#x27;t. the only houses they build are too large for what new families need. So people delay starting a family, because the housing that should be there isn&#x27;t there for them. Fewer kids.<p>- because it&#x27;s hard to find places to live, people are less mobile. when they find a place, they hold onto it longer, even if it&#x27;s suboptimal for their situation. So people stick around even if it sucks, because there&#x27;s nothing better out there.<p>- places that have prestige jobs see the bottom % pushed out because there&#x27;s only room for top % employees. Those places get &quot;hollowed out&quot; with the bottom % taking long commutes or living in suboptimal conditions to be near the top %. Social segregation, which leads to cultural disconnects.<p>- parents don&#x27;t have a place to go once their children are grown up and have moved out. Our built infrastructure doesn&#x27;t suit them. So they stay put and get lonely.<p>- because everyone has to drive to work and can&#x27;t walk, small businesses that depend on foot traffic don&#x27;t work any more. Big businesses with office parks and the money to build parking lots in suburbs have the commercial advantage, so they prevail.<p>etc etc.<p>Completely removing the whole concept of &quot;money&quot; from the conversation, makes it abundantly clear that we are making bad choices about our built infrastructure, over and over again, to all society&#x27;s detriment.
CHB04030854822 months ago
Make cities for people, not cars!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=OObwqreAJ48" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=OObwqreAJ48</a>
throwaway6523682 months ago
Another factor everyone is missing because it&#x27;s politically incorrect to talk about:<p>There needs to be a way to avoid loud inconsiderate neighbors. Currently, this is done in practice by choosing an area where loud inconsiderate people are priced out. Until there&#x27;s another way to do it, there will always be a demand for such areas.<p>Increasing supply of housing is great on paper. But imagine you&#x27;re a productive citizen who gets up early, works hard, and goes to bed early. Housing prices get reduced to where anyone can afford to live anywhere? By definition, suddenly ANYONE can become your neighbor, including folks who will play loud music at all hours of the night, keep loud dogs, etc. And sure, that might violate noise laws. Good luck getting those enforced, if the laws aren&#x27;t changed to have teeth!!<p>When dreaming up solutions to housing problems, ask yourself: &quot;Would this solution allow a bum to move near to Bill Gates?&quot; If the answer is yes, then your idea will not work. &quot;Would this solution allow a bunch of high school dropouts to live alongside highly-paid software engineers doing work crucial for the economy?&quot; If the answer is yes, your idea will have unforeseen bad consequences.
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chrisbrandow2 months ago
This and insufficient taxation of higher income brackets is basically my entire politics these days.
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yimby20012 months ago
You could only create a land value tax for land that is already owned outright if there’s a mortgage for that land, then the owner will default and society will colander.
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flyingaspi2 months ago
Quite a good article, I like the ‘hyper local democracy’ suggestion.<p>But it’s weird how every discussion of housing seems to jump to increase supply and density.<p>Never a mention of: - immigration driven demand - historically low interest rates inflating all asset prices - occupancy per home<p>The macro trends that have driven these for the last 50 years are now reversing, at least in places like the SF Bay Area which will have a huge impact.<p>Also the population pyramid of the US will (sadly) drive down demand in the next couple of decades.<p>Also I’ve read studies that suggest that dense housing is less likely to promote family formation e.g. Japan’s high density and laissez-faire zoning hasn’t helped with their fertility crisis.
stephc_int132 months ago
There is one thing missing from this article.<p>Yes housing cost has many secondary effects, including the fertility crisis, it is in fact by far the main driving factor, all other are either downstream cultural adjustments (cope) or correlations (highly educated are attracted to large cities, where the housing cost is the highest)<p>But having said that, and looked at the financial and regulatory effects, the main driving factor is simply supply and demand, that is demographic density.<p>For most goods, when demand increases, supply will follow, but housing is a peculiar kind of good because value is following a power law around a few hundreds attractive centers, meaning that supply is highly constrained, at least given current transport technology and cities structures.<p>The solution is obvious: let the fertility crisis unfold, that will self correct the housing cost and the fertility crisis at the same time. But we&#x27;ll have to build a different social redistribution system, we can&#x27;t expect a pyramid scheme to work forever.
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7e2 months ago
Housing destroys the environment, uglifies the world, and a generation later, housing is just as expensive as it was before. Why? Because humans breed and overrun their habitats. Housing costs keep neighborhoods livable and the population from exploding. Say no to traffic, say no to killing the earth. Say no to housing expansion.
827a2 months ago
The pricing behavior of a modern economy is entirely dictated by the component prices of four things: Energy, Real Estate, Food, and Water. There&#x27;s some interplay in how the pricing of one of these impacts the other (e.g. expensive energy makes transporting food more expensive, but expensive food makes harvesting energy more expensive). But there&#x27;s nothing more &quot;atomic&quot; than these four things; the price of everything else is overwhelmed by price movements of Energy, Real Estate, Food, and Water.<p>(in a competitive market, is the asterisk on this. If a market is not competitive, then Greed can be thought of as a 5th atomic economic input).<p>The biggest challenge of the 21st century is: we aren&#x27;t discovering much more of any of these things. The second derivative of &quot;how many of these things are available on the market&quot; is basically 0. Rights have been sold to everything in the ground; farmers know exactly how many cattle they&#x27;ll have three years out; there&#x27;s no surprises left. Companies need to show revenue growth, and Jerome wants 2% inflation, not 0%, not 6%. So, the price of these things can only go up; nothing is forcing them back down.<p>The situation for Energy, Food, and Water isn&#x27;t great, but they all have a pretty constant cost to their production; there&#x27;s some sources of energy that are harder to get at, I&#x27;ve always heard fracking is one of these, but by-and-large they still have economics of scale on their side, once you adjust for inflation gas was $3.14 in 1975 and its $3.21 now, 50 years later. Its a similar story with food. Water has probably gotten cheaper, actually, but that&#x27;s a rounding error.<p>Real Estate is the opposite. We&#x27;re making more people. We aren&#x27;t discovering more land. Critically: We can increase our effective utilization of each square mile of land, but doing so raises the cost of each unit. Its cheap to just throw a homestead on a plot in the middle of nowhere, but once you put 200 people into an apartment building the same size you need to start thinking about parking, transportation, plumbing, electricity, crime, internet, it gets more and more expensive per-person as density goes up. This is part of the fallacy of thinking that the whole solution is density: Replacing a single family home with a 50 unit apartment complex usually results in an increase in cost per square foot, not a decrease.<p>The other part is highlighted in Harris&#x27; plan to give first time homebuyers $10,000 toward a down payment. The reason why housing is expensive is not strictly density (read: supply); its also in demand. Demand does not decrease because you built more units. Due to induced demand, it oftentimes will increase, because those units might be mixed use, foot-traffic draws cool businesses, people want to live there, and thus your big plan to reduce the cost of housing by building more units actually just increased it.<p>If you were the commissioner of some county with a growing population who wanted to reduce the cost of housing in the county, and you were also God and knew exactly how many people were going to move to the county in the next year, and you added precisely that number of units: The cost of housing will still go up. If you add more than exactly the needed number of units, the cost of housing might stagnate or go down, but its likely the vacancy rates will cause some level of financial strain on the property developers, and it might be hard to sustain such development; and in N years the cost will continue to rise.<p>Developed Urban areas cannot escape this curse. Housing costs will always want to rise at a rate higher than inflation, over a long enough period of time. This shouldn&#x27;t stop cities from increasing density, because what other option do they have, and it might be the difference between 4% and 8%. Underdeveloped cities (e.g. Austin TX), suburban, and rural areas in the United States can still underrun inflation, however, but shouldn&#x27;t rush to significantly increase density more than demand on the area can support.<p>The idea that any given county with a growing population can meaningfully and durably reduce the cost of housing within their borders is, mostly, a fallacy in the United States. The only way this can happen is in an environment with deflationary monetary policy, and the United States is extremely allergic to this.
ksec2 months ago
I have been saying this since before even the Housing Bubble which leads to 2008. And every time some insane Silicon Valley UBI or some other utopia theory come up and none of them fix or even mentioned anything about housing. And it is a problem everywhere, even in some areas of Japan. So I am now 20 years of watching the sad state of things.<p>No politicians wants to tackle it, no establishment wants to change. And people talk about wages stagnation, when it is property pricing becoming unreachable.
api2 months ago
If anything, I think this understates the problem.<p>I&#x27;ve thought for years that in much of the developed world housing is the economic problem. The economic problem, singular. This is particularly true for the young, who are the future of the economy. The inability of young people to build wealth and find stability is almost entirely attributable to housing. If you look at cost and wages <i>minus housing</i> young people are doing as well or even better than their parents.<p>If you are talking about young peoples&#x27; struggles with the economy and housing prices are not the very first thing you mention, you are wrong. If you&#x27;re talking about declining birth rates and family formation and you&#x27;re not at least mentioning housing prices, you are wrong.<p>Health care and college tuition are problems too, but housing is the most ubiquitous, unavoidable, and directly disruptive to peoples&#x27; lives. It prevents people from &quot;launching.&quot;<p>Edit: you know... if Donald Trump wanted to go down in history as the greatest president in the last 50 years, he could use all the power he has to reform zoning and open development and smash housing prices. Use the same funds withholding tactics against states and localities to pressure them to sideline NIMBYs and streamline permitting. Tax corporate and private equity purchases of residences, tax foreign purchases, and tax unoccupied properties. He&#x27;d be a hero even if his record was complete garbage on literally everything else, because he would have solved <i>the</i> economic problem.<p>Of course he&#x27;d never do that. He&#x27;s a real estate mogul for f&#x27;s sake.
flakiness2 months ago
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bbor2 months ago
<p><pre><code> `I.i` the San Francisco Bay Area – probably the most productive place in the Western world </code></pre> That is absurd. Beyond absurd -- insulting. Every day I only feel more shame for being associated with Silicon Valley, because of how arrogant the culture has become...<p><pre><code> `I.ii` In the 1960s, it was commonplace that a middle class single-earner American or British family would be able to afford a comfortable home. </code></pre> This is such a common fallacious belief the author doesn&#x27;t even think to cite it. That&#x27;s very relatable, but regardless it should be called out: home ownership was rarer in 1965[1].<p><pre><code> `I.iii` These prices range from about twice to four times the cost of building new homes of equivalent specification. This wedge, between build costs and house prices, is a rough proxy for how much extra cost is being driven by restrictions on new building. </code></pre> I&#x27;m sure we can all agree that streamlining housing bureaucracy should&#x27;ve been a priority in the US, but this super-simple picture is misleading, IMO. Regulations are the first layer of friction, but they cover up real conflicts&#x2F;costs&#x2F;externalities; simply removing all regulations on housing production would destroy San Francisco&#x27;s famous skyline and unique architecture, for one.<p>Ultimately this quote represents the core of my problem with this (well written, relatable!) piece: it&#x27;s discussing capitalism without mentioning capitalists. A huge part of housing costs are tied to corporate monopolization and rent-seeking, not just red tape.<p><pre><code> `I.iv` By contrast, almost every other household product has become better and less expensive since then. </code></pre> Housing is considered a service by the Fed (I guess because it requires construction workers?), so this is less surprising than it&#x27;s framed here; services have all gotten more expensive as goods have gotten cheaper. See Section 3&#x2F;Chart 4 here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorkfed.org&#x2F;medialibrary&#x2F;media&#x2F;research&#x2F;epr&#x2F;04v10n3&#x2F;0412peacpdf.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorkfed.org&#x2F;medialibrary&#x2F;media&#x2F;research&#x2F;epr&#x2F;0...</a><p><pre><code> `II.i` This means that many people are working in less productive jobs than they could if it was easier for them to move to more productive places. </code></pre> Very true -- as I said, the underlying impetus is very relatable! This is <i>exactly</i> why we were in such desperate need for reliable, cheap mass transit outside of NYC and DC. Luckily, WFH is something of a hack here.<p><pre><code> `II.ii` Sheer size is not all that matters, because complementarity between workers matters even more – a skilled software engineer will likely increase her income more by moving to Berlin (population: 4.4 million) than to Mexico City (population: 21 million). </code></pre> ...because Germany is richer, not because they&#x27;re nerdier. I really want to like this article, but it almost seems to be <i>intentionally</i> ignoring the inequalities created by capitalism + nationalism.<p><pre><code> `II.iii` By historical and global standards, today’s most successful cities in America and other Western countries are astonishingly sparsely populated and sprawling... The main cause of this is regulations that ban buildings that make better use of the land. </code></pre> Again: c&#x27;mon. The fact that the word &quot;automobile&quot; doesn&#x27;t appear in this paragraph isn&#x27;t an omission, it&#x27;s a fatal flaw to the entire point. We&#x27;ve known the effect of cars on urban density since 1939[2].<p><pre><code> `II.iv` According to one study[3]... [if productivity of labor is vastly different across cities, output can in principle be increased by expanding employment in high productivity cities at the expense of low productivity cities] </code></pre> That is a very questionable hypothesis; AFAIU, they&#x27;re saying that doubling the population of San Jose would double the GDP generated by the city. IMO That&#x27;s a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes rich cities rich.<p>I&#x27;ll cut my rant here -- the inequality section is interesting (love a Henry George reference!), even if I don&#x27;t buy the final &quot;...because of regulations&quot; point. And he does get around to mentioning cars in the obesity &amp; climate change sections! And this is downright fascinating: <i>&quot;radically localized democracy that allows individual streets to opt in to greater density by voting for it&quot;</i><p>Sorry for clogging the thread a bit, I hope someone finds my rants a bit helpful. John (and Ben and Sam and Kade!!), if you&#x27;re here: I love the writing, I share your goals, but I think you need to be a bit more careful when everything seems to be fitting together so neatly. If regulation is the core of inequality, I don&#x27;t think this article will prove it to many people.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fred.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;RHORUSQ156N" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fred.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;RHORUSQ156N</a><p>[2] Lewis Mumford&#x27;s <i>The City</i>, 1939 -- start around 16:00 for the ~4min section on cars. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;7nuvcpnysjU?si=WJWmIGWxZ1fwIsi5&amp;t=960" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;7nuvcpnysjU?si=WJWmIGWxZ1fwIsi5&amp;t=960</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubs.aeaweb.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;pdfplus&#x2F;10.1257&#x2F;mac.20170388" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubs.aeaweb.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;pdfplus&#x2F;10.1257&#x2F;mac.20170388</a>
compiler_queen2 months ago
Typical misogynistic and biased opinions, and not to reference the struggles of neurodiverse women is also another totem of the male agenda.
jmyeet2 months ago
These problems stem from <i>private property</i>. That is, we allow the hoarding of a basic necessity (ie shelter) and we treat housing as an investment vehicle. This incentivizes every aspect of society and government to do what they can to increase property prices. Homeowners think it&#x27;s good for them. Investors love it. How do we do that? By limiting supply.<p>In most of the US it&#x27;s illegal to build anything other than single-family houses. We build our cities around cars. We make it impossible to build any form of public transit because that might let undesirables into our nice clean neighborhoods.<p>The single biggest factor in homelessness is being priced out of housing.<p>Expensive housing is an input into everything. It means wages need to be higher. It makes everything you buy from a business more expensive. It&#x27;s why that $2 coffee 30 years ago is $8 now.<p>What&#x27;s the alternatie? Personal property and social housing. Personal property (as distinct from private property) is that you can still own property you personally use. You simply can&#x27;t hoard housing. Social housing means the government provides affordable quality housing to anyone who wants it. The poster child for this is Vienna, where over 60% of the housing is soial housing.<p>If you buy a house for $300k and it goes up to $800k. You haven&#x27;t made $500k. You think you have but you haven&#x27;t. Why? Because what would you do if you sold it? You&#x27;d still have to live somewhere. And if every other house is also $800k, you still only have one housing unit of wealth.<p>Expensive housing is simply stealing from the next generation. It&#x27;s also a way to keep you in debt, to coerce you into working with the threat of violence (eviction is violence) hanging over you.<p>Landlords are parasites.
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