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Using a graphics tablet as a programming tool (2018)

88 pointsby akkartik2 months ago

8 comments

pjmlp2 months ago
What I am missing, and would buy as an app, is the ability to code on an Android tablet with pen.<p>Regardless of the programming language, writing code as I do on paper, with the difference it is straight into the editor window.<p>No side panel, where I have to write one word after the other with pauses and correction, or that some apps (looking at you Pydroid) for whatever reason disable.<p>Straight like Apple&#x27;s math demo, to make it more precise.<p>This is the kind of stuff I would like AI algorithms to improve, instead of taking people&#x27;s work away.
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bipson2 months ago
I can totally relate to the premise of the blog post. Thinking (for most people) benefits from some sort of free form scribbling and drawing to make sense of it, and realize what you&#x27;re missing. At least for me it makes a huge difference.<p>I remember reading a tip more than a decade ago from a senior developer, that you should <i>always</i> have pen and paper next to your keyboard, to take notes, visualize problems, keep notes of where you are. Most of the thinking happens there.<p>When I&#x27;m working on bigger things alone, it helps me keep track or the bigger picture, how to keep separation of concern und understand where my abstractions started leaking.<p>Moving that pen and paper to digital unfortunately was never low-barrier for me. I thought about acquiring a reMarkable for that purpose, but it isn&#x27;t perfect either.<p>I used excalidraw in the past, but it also does not integrate too well with my environment.<p>Now, with everyone being remote I would really love to have something that not only replaces my own scribbling and conceptualizing, but also serves as &quot;whiteboard&quot; for collaboration. I clearly clearly miss the whiteboard when discussing abstract things&#x2F;ideas&#x2F;problems with peers.<p>The app mentioned in the post seems a little abandoned unfortunately. Does someone out there use something similar?
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oofoe2 months ago
I&#x27;ve been doing this for a long time, ever since I was able to score a used Wacom Cintiq. I would recommend anything with a screen (Cintiq, Huion, iPad, etc.) over a plain graphics tablet if you can -- it makes things more tactile and immediate.<p>I&#x27;ve (mis)used a number of drawing apps for programming design, including Milton (as in the article), Foundry Mischief, AutoDesk Sketchbook Pro, WonderUnit Storyboarder, Blender, Leonardo, Krita and Xournal++.<p>Mischief, Sketchbook and Storyboarder are either discontinued or no longer under active development. Mischief had a really nice infinite canvas and some nice features for doing presentations across it. You can still get an old Windows version if you look in the... right places. But it&#x27;s a dead end. Sketchbook has a lot of nice features, but seems like it&#x27;s all but abandoned. It &#x2F;is&#x2F; available on mobile. They used to have a nice blog where they featured a lot of great artists. Storyboarder is cross-platform and source is available, but packages can&#x27;t seem to be downloaded any more.<p>The Blender grease pencil tool just gets better and better and works well with tablets. I&#x27;ve used it to do rough sketches and user-interface mockups. Colour selection was a bit clumsy last time I tried, but I think it&#x27;s been improved since. I think you could say it has an &quot;effectively infinite&quot; canvas. Scriptable, 3D objects are first class.<p>Leonardo is Windows-only, but has pretty nice raster-based infinite canvas. Very responsive and quick. Very easy to do constrained lines and shapes, which can be useful for programming ideation. It&#x27;s my current go-to, I&#x27;m not sure what I&#x27;m going to do when I switch to Linux once Win10 is unsupported. Maybe it will run on Wine...<p>Krita is really more of a traditional paint program, but I&#x27;ve still used it for notes and designs even though no infinite canvas. It has a &quot;Comics Manager&quot; bolt on that can be used as a sort of notebook. Scriptable.<p>Xournal++ is a bit of a strange beast. It&#x27;s intended to be more of a &quot;notebook&quot; application. No infinite canvas, but as many &quot;pages&quot; as you like. It deals with LaTeX, PDF and also pressure-sensitive tablet sketching. It has voice recording and markup features. It&#x27;s also cross-platform -- I&#x27;ve used on Windows and Linux, and if I can&#x27;t take Leonardo with me it&#x27;s probably going to be my new main app. Also -- nice to use when you want to sign a PDF with a &quot;real&quot; signature.<p>Not including things like GraphViz, PlantUML, etc. -- all the apps above are very responsive and support pressure-sensitive sketching, which I think is vital for ideation and exploration.
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WillAdams2 months ago
A nascent tool which looks to further explore this space is being developed by the guy who made Nodezator <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42274399">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42274399</a> Kennedy Richard: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;user?id=KennedyRichard">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;user?id=KennedyRichard</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;IndieSmiths&#x2F;myappmaker-sdd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;IndieSmiths&#x2F;myappmaker-sdd</a><p>The current version just allows drawing to make labels and checkboxes --- nothing more (but if one wanted to mock up a design which just needed those elements, it&#x27;s a start)
CyberDildonics2 months ago
This article is basically &quot;I write notes with my tablet instead of using paper&quot;.
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leephillips2 months ago
Anything similar for Linux? The Milton github page says that the source might possibly compile on Linux but is pessimistic.
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hmottestad2 months ago
Anyone know any good infinite canvas app for the iPad?<p>I’ve used Goodnotes for years, but it doesn’t have an infinite canvas unfortunately. Otherwise it’s an amazing app and nothing really comes close. I’ve been trying Apple Freeform as an alternative, but it’s truly terrible in comparison.
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user68858788about 2 months ago
I’m going to try this!