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Most Externalities Are Solved with Technology, Not Coordination

4 pointsby gwintrobabout 2 months ago

4 comments

mitthrowaway2about 2 months ago
I find, as usual, that Maximum Progress is offering a hubristic take.<p>Yes, plastics now are superior to ivory for any purpose aside from signalling wealth. But guess what, that last purpose is enough that ivory poaching remains a perpetual problem and elephants would probably have been wiped out by now if not for the dedicated efforts of governments and non-profits to combat poaching and to lock down the ivory trade.<p>Yes, solar power is getting very cheap, but it&#x27;s a little early to declare the carbon emissions externality solved. Fossil fuel companies are still investing in infrastructure (pipelines, refineries, etc) with multi-decade payback times, so I expect we&#x27;ll still have a long time yet to wait. And carbon emissions are a problem with a deadline.<p>Aquaculture is a growing source of fish, but overfishing remains a major unsolved problem, and there are also concerns about aquaculture itself having negative impacts on wild fish populations.
ano-therabout 2 months ago
The list of counterexamples at the end is a little light.<p>The Montreal Protocol is probably the most famous example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.unep.org&#x2F;ozonaction&#x2F;who-we-are&#x2F;about-montreal-protocol" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.unep.org&#x2F;ozonaction&#x2F;who-we-are&#x2F;about-montreal-pr...</a><p>And the German feed-in-tariffs helped renewables quite a bit: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Feed-in_tariffs_in_Germany" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Feed-in_tariffs_in_Germany</a><p>Or the European emission standards: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;European_emission_standards" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;European_emission_standards</a><p>They achieved their two goals of (1) minimizing the externality and (2) driving technology innovation.
pfdietzabout 2 months ago
It&#x27;s not either-or. Coordination provides the market incentives that encourage the adoption or development of the technologies; technological development reduces the cost of compliance.
biglyburritoabout 2 months ago
Duplicate: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43381599">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43381599</a>