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The loneliest people (and places) in America

57 pointsby wallflowerabout 2 months ago

12 comments

tasukiabout 2 months ago
&gt; No matter how much time you think young men devote to video games, you’re probably underestimating it. Two decades ago, high-school- and college-age males (ages 15 to 24) spent about a quarter of an hour a day alone playing games. Now, that figure has more than quintupled to 1.4 hours a day.<p>Wat? I&#x27;d have expected it to be a lot more.<p>I&#x27;m sure there are quite a few who spend over eight hours a day playing games...
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dustincoatesabout 2 months ago
One thing jumped out: many of the states with high rates of &quot;always&quot; lonely, also have high rates of &quot;never&quot; lonely. Many of these states are in the Sun Belt. The article ties those always rates to poverty, these are also states that have had a high in-migration in recent years.<p>Could this contradiction instead be that many of those who report being always lonely are those who have moved recently to the states, and who don&#x27;t have the connection (often familial) that those who have been around longer, or who have stayed back in the &quot;less lonely&quot; states, have?
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alistairSHabout 2 months ago
Maybe I misread some of the article, but seems like younger people just &quot;suck&quot; at being alone? IE, older people are less likely to feel lonely when they&#x27;re physically alone? I wonder if that&#x27;s because older people are more likely to have a solo hobby - reading a book, knitting, whatever - and younger people are more likely to &quot;doom scroll&quot; online?
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weakfishabout 2 months ago
It&#x27;s a bit puzzling to me that they acknowledge statements like<p>&gt; Looking at people who identify as LGBTQ, the data at first suggested that they tend to be lonelier. But it’s largely because self-identified LGBTQ folks tend to be younger.<p>But then do not follow up with an analysis adjusted for this - wouldn&#x27;t that be fairly straightforward?
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mitchbobabout 2 months ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;j0IOL" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;j0IOL</a>
dgfitzabout 2 months ago
&gt; Across the data, nothing we tested relates more strongly to loneliness than a lack of social support. When you ask who’s “always” lonely, more than half of the people who say they never get social support raise their hands.<p>A lack of a sense of community makes people feel lonely. Wish this had been the first sentence instead of the last.
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ethintonabout 2 months ago
The headline reminded me of this piece from Alvin Chang that I really enjoyed:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pudding.cool&#x2F;2023&#x2F;09&#x2F;invisible-epidemic&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pudding.cool&#x2F;2023&#x2F;09&#x2F;invisible-epidemic&#x2F;</a>
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throwaway13337about 2 months ago
These are survey questions. It seems to reveal most about cultural differences between what different groups feel like they are allowed to feel.<p>It would be difficult to control for this but it’s just naive to think these numbers should be interpreted in the straight forward manner presented.<p>It’s obvious that men and older people would likely report less loneliness as a cultural instinct, on average, for example. This is distinct from actual loneliness, though, which would be higher in both groups. At least if you think suicide rates are correlated.<p>It’s an important topic but this is unfortunately just going to muddy the waters.
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merryochaabout 2 months ago
The color shading on those maps seems deceptive to me. It suggests a starker contrast than what the numbers tell.
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JumpinJack_Cashabout 2 months ago
You can be alone in a sea of people.<p>It&#x27;s not about quantity, it&#x27;s about quality and depth.<p>However it would be ideal to feel content with superficial interactions but it&#x27;s almost always not sufficient.
PaulHouleabout 2 months ago
See <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;ZByHo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;ZByHo</a>
watwutabout 2 months ago
Interesting and much different then stereotypes thrown around would have you believe.