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It’s not mold, it’s calcium lactate (2018)

409 pointsby ilikepi2 months ago

13 comments

Tade02 months ago
I spent a couple of months in Switzerland for a project and supermarkets there often have this booth that me and my friends referred to as the &quot;Kingdom of Cheese&quot;.<p>The Kingdom of Cheese is a climate-controlled enclave with just cheese - the person there is happy to help you decide because they know you&#x27;ll be back eventually as indeed the products there have those crystals.
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WillPostForFood2 months ago
I’ve always loved the crunch in a good Gouda, and it’s really fun to read some details about tyrosine crystals that cause it.
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geetee2 months ago
How long until cheese makers start adding the crunchy crystals to give the appearance of quality without the actual quality?
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borski2 months ago
Visited Gouda in the Netherlands and learned this. Best cheese I’ve ever had.
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dekhn2 months ago
Cheese crystals are umami. Many of them are glutamate crystals. I am curious if the other amino crystals have a similar flavor profile.
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7speter2 months ago
Was proud I planned out buying a couple of pounds of cheddar from the supermarket and keeping it in our spare fridge for a year and had aged cheddar for Thanksgiving baked mac and cheese last November.
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shrubble2 months ago
Costco sells the Coastal cheddar which has a lot of this kind of crystals.
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NikkiA2 months ago
This thread makes me realise I must be the only person on earth that detests the taste of the crystals.
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niemandhier2 months ago
Obligatory reference to the excellent book: The Science of Cheese by Michael H. Tunick.<p>This book is an in depth scientific introduction to, exactly, cheese. A great read, you can feel the passion the man has for his work!
stevenwoo2 months ago
I&#x27;m now kind of upset at myself that I have thrown out perfectly good Cheddar in the past due to white spots.
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karaterobot2 months ago
&gt; Generally speaking, calcium lactate will be found on the outside of a cheese (usually a cheddar), and tyrosine or leucine crystals will be on the inside. Calcium lactate can also form on the inside of cheese, but tyrosine and leucine crystals cannot.<p>... Cannot form on the outside, presumably.
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xattt2 months ago
Tangential, but I recently noticed that natamycin, an antifungal agent, is being used in packages of shredded cheese as a preservative.<p>I was a little taken aback on seeing it, given that antibiotic stewardship has been pushed so much in the last decade.<p>I realize that natamycin is an antifungal and not an antibiotic, and that mechanisms of developing resistance are likely different between eukaryotes and prokaryotes. However, I’m still somewhat concerned what long-term low-level exposure will mean.
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talkingtab2 months ago
It seems wrong to me that most of what people now call cheese is not at all like what I think of as &quot;real cheese&quot;. I have ended up making cheese and it is both fascinating, productive and tasty. While there are many &quot;recipes&quot; for cheeses, they are mainly focused on preparing the cheese for aging. These are often techniques, like washing the curd (gouda) or cheddaring (cheddar).<p>The aging part takes more work. I converted a 7.5 CU refrigerator using an Inkbird temp controller. That works surprisingly well. Currently I&#x27;m attempting to improve the humidity control with a humidity version of the Inkbird.<p>But highly recommended. I have everything I made (even the failures) with the exception of one of the first attempts.
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