Ghibli art is famous because ghibli art means ghibli movies. It is more beautiful in motion than still, the beauty is in part due to the emotion evoked by the story.<p>There were a million Doom clones, none of which were as good as Doom. The same will be true of AI art copycats.<p>This, however, is not the first time ghibli has had competition <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_and_the_Witch's_Flower" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_and_the_Witch's_Flower</a> in fact they have a whole studio dedicated to copying ghibli: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ponoc" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ponoc</a><p>Yes they used to work at ghibli, but so too did john romero work at id, and yet daikatana was not a quake-killer.<p>This doesn't devalue ghibli at all, I think<p>(In fact, I think AI will always have the fundamental problem that most people have no taste or sense or introspection, they don't know why good things are good, and can't see that crap things are crap, so they are predestined to only be able to produce garbage. Nod to Ted Sturgeon.)
Read on Reddit that people love AI because it's "democratizing creativity". Let that sink in. People want to be dropped on the top of the mountain and be called an alpinist.
What if the transcendence of a unique style into a commodity is inevitable for all greatly influential styles, and a mark of greatness not of debasement or dilution. What if instead of the "impurity" of the commons polluting the "purity" of the pure form, the pure form has evolved into a memetic virus that has infected everything and reproduced itself in many forms, beyond even the power of its creator? The creator's grief at, in part, loss of control is understandable but perhaps is a tribute to how what they created transcended them into a thing with a life of its own, one of the truest tributes to creative genius, no?<p>What if a distinct style is not owned by one artist, even if they are most associated with it, but in reality, in art historical reality, is most commonly explored by a group of more and less famous creators, all as part of a movement, at a time? What influences did Ghibli draw on?<p>Buddhism says all things are essentially empty of their own existence but are merely conditions resulting from other causes, and so on, in a chain unending. Like this.<p>The pointillism[0] of Impressionism that ended up spread to the masses by countless including Bob Ross is one example of the memetic evolution and transcendent influence of "high art". Greatness can filter down but it doesn't mean it's not great.<p>An iPhone is still a masterpiece even if you hold it in the ghetto. Does the ghetto pollute it or does it lift the ghetto? Maybe there's cross pollination, but I think it's infected with its greatness.<p>0: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointillism" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointillism</a>
I wonder how Hideo Miyazaki feels about this, the fact that machines are able to recreate his style seems to go against the whimsy he creates in his art. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a possible lawsuit considering how strongly that style is tied to him, and that the model surely used his films as data.<p>If it was me I would feel horrible that what I gave to the public and dedicated my life to was contorted in this manner.
> Google dropped their biggest upgrade ever & ghibli core completely hijacked the zeitgeist.<p>On twitter maybe but on places like localllama google Gemini got way more airtime than this drama
Great read. I particularly noted<p><pre><code> The takeaway? If you’re launching a consumer product, technical superiority doesn’t automatically translate to cultural impact. In the battle for attention, a memorable vibe often beats a better benchmark.</code></pre>
The Ghibli stuff is really amusing but for me the best are the infographics - you can make amazing stuff with basically 0 2D CG know-how for e.g. a presentation, web page, documentation, blog, etc.<p>The biggest difference to what was previously available is the accuracy - especially the text. This opens up a plethora of possibilities.
The obtuseness and the soullessness of the user excited by this trick is what is most sad about this situation. "Look at me, I'm a cartoon!" speaks of the arrested development and some kind of a consciousness stunted by some autistic juvenescence prevalent in modern people. This pupa is really excited about living, I suppose.
Seems like a fad where everyone looks basically the same after the conversion. You are gonna get a reaction for first 5 photos but I’ve grown past it and I just skip looking most of it on social media
The native image support of GPT-4o is really impressive, no model before was able to work so well in the joint space, just compare it to the Gemini 2.0 Flash model with native image support, the difference is massive, so I'm not too surprise that people focused more on the native image support of GPT-4o than the new SOTA by Google.
Here is a montage of many of the recent ghibli creations: <a href="https://0x0.st/82oM.webm" rel="nofollow">https://0x0.st/82oM.webm</a><p>It's chocked full of memes, historical and political photos, and general pop culture.
Where's this Ghiblification? I'm still getting real cat photos in my FB feed. At least I hope they're real.<p>Could it be that all the "AI" evangelists are in their own bubble and desperately trying to make money off each other?<p>Like when mobile free to play gambling apps ("games" they said) had ads, but only for other mobile free to play gambling apps.
I understand the criticisms presented here.<p>But seeing a beautiful, whimsical image of my baby daughter in the Ghibli style was pure joy and brought tears to my eyes.<p>I have no idea how I could have done this otherwise, and I hope it brings happiness to Miyazaki to know that it brought joy to someone.
tbh i think it's a good thing when people can make art in a style they love. most people make kitsch, that's ok. people who study will make stuff that reaches the emotional and intellectual heights of the best.<p>it does make me uneasy if OpenAI charges more than at-cost to help people do so though. it's the profiteering off others' work that is gross.<p>a quote from "The Communist Manifesto" about the nature of capitalism:<p>"Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."
Reminds me of the work that Corridor Digital has done with similar tech.<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVT3WUa-48Y" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVT3WUa-48Y</a>
The Miyazaki quote is always taken out of context, the disgust he utters has nothing to do with automation of grunt work and everything to do with the horror content he just witnessed. Miyazaki is not one who insists on everything Ghibli being hand drawn, his son even uses cartoonish CGI, which I think looks awful.<p>This type of quality is close to enabling a storyboarder like Miyazaki do an entire animation on their own. I have yet to hear him say he would not use such technology, despite him being rather opinionated.
I think AI is just leverage for whatever you want to do. How you use that leverage, and what you apply it to is what matters. It's just another tool for humanity.
Hayao Miyazaki is frying this kind of idea: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc</a><p><i>> I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself</i>