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The software engineers willing to pay $10k to help them land a coding job

31 pointsby wallflowerabout 1 month ago

23 comments

foxyvabout 1 month ago
Please note, that if someone is asking for payment in exchange for employment or help with recruitment, it is very often a scam. Be very careful of such schemes.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;consumer.gov&#x2F;scams-identity-theft&#x2F;job-scams-explained" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;consumer.gov&#x2F;scams-identity-theft&#x2F;job-scams-explaine...</a><p>&gt; Never pay to get a job. Honest employers won’t ask you to pay to get a job. And they won’t send you a check and tell you to send some of the money back. That’s a scam. The check will end up being fake.
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ryandrakeabout 1 month ago
Isn&#x27;t this kind of what an Agent does in the world of Hollywood actors? I would actually love to have some person that I paid who was constantly out there scouting for actual roles that look lucrative and attainable, help with the rote filling-out of forms, help with company research and interview coaching, helping to grease wheels internally (if possible), and importantly, helping with compensation negotiation which I&#x27;ve always been bad at. Traditional recruiters really don&#x27;t do much of this at all, and generally act in the best interest of the employer rather than the candidate. We should have agents who could work for us and had our own best interests in mind, for a change.
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dailykoderabout 1 month ago
6 figures? I only take jobs with free fruit basket. That&#x27;s the minimum.<p>PS, my references: I have never used cursor, I am quite bad at vibe coding and don&#x27;t enjoy it at all. I rarely even use AI for help. But I am quite decent at FPGA design and embedded developemnt. If you have a job for me in germany or remote in europe, then I will pay you with very bad humor every week. Possibility of using linux+neovim is a requirement though. (Yes, I really need a job)
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tkiolp4about 1 month ago
I don’t know. I have never referred anyone, but then in my 10+ years of experience in the software industry I have never found extremely talented or extremely untalented software engineers. Most of them, including myself, were between a 4 and a 6 or so (in a scale of 1 to 10). So, I always thought about offering referrals to strangers just by looking at their linkedin profiles&#x2F;cvs&#x2F;blogs. Chances are, they are also between 4 and a 6.<p>This whole “we hire the best of the best” and interviews with 5+ rounds should be eradicated asap.
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mathgeekabout 1 month ago
Paying directly for referrals that lead to an offer seems a natural result of how much the value of an internal referral has increased since the automation war turned its guns at job boards. Even with how much less a generic referral means now, it’s still a numbers game.
SOLAR_FIELDSabout 1 month ago
$10k USD cash is exactly what a startup I used to work for would pay employees for a successful referral (hired and work in the position for some set amount of time). That seems to be the going price for a successful SDE hire as of the time of writing this comment. Here it just looks like the employee wants to pay that instead of the employer.<p>Note that I’m not commenting on the ethics or other wider aspects around why prospective employees might feel like they want to pay this, I’m only pointing out that the number is not unreasonable or abnormal
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jasonjmcgheeabout 1 month ago
Companies pay recruiters more than $10k for an engineer regularly. I&#x27;ve been quoted 25% of 1 year salary as the referral cost (which felt high).
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w10-1about 1 month ago
I believe the uncomfortable truth that drives highly-incentivized hiring is twofold:<p>1. There are many more qualified candidates than jobs. That happened with outsourcing and remote, well before AI. That makes hiring errors are mostly undiscoverable.<p>2. Chemistry matters -- a lot -- in working together, leading to premiums for connections and a bias towards mutually-beneficial referral networks, which makes performance evaluation very difficult. (Objective standards tend to make success game-able, particularly with inside knowledge.)<p>Desperation is not pretty, opportunity distribution is far from optimal, and teams are rarely open and objective about membership.
Joel_Mckayabout 1 month ago
In general, many staffing agencies already take a percentage to fill roles without the applicants knowledge, and as such often suppress fair market value for defined roles.<p>Always apply directly to the company you are interested in attending. Once you are in a staffing agencies database the hiring firms are often contractually obligated not to directly hire you.<p>If an agency asks for money, free labor, or other stupid scams... than you probably don&#x27;t want to work there anyway. =3<p>This company was legitimate at one time, but YMMV with these types of services:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aerotek.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aerotek.com&#x2F;</a>
neilvabout 1 month ago
It&#x27;s a go-getter idea in general, but this part is very questionable:<p>&gt; <i>So if you want to make some extra cash for referrals,</i><p>Lots of companies were already shooting themselves in the foot, by introducing conflicts of interest in paying referral bonuses.<p>But for the companies that weren&#x27;t already insane in the membrane, regarding referrals, it looks like a bribe.
duxupabout 1 month ago
&gt;I was kind of being a little bit sarcastic, but I guess everyone received it somewhat well, and I just kind of went with it<p>Is this just based on some guy&#x27;s sarcastic LinkedIn post and then transitions to just a regular story about the job market?<p>And then later:<p>&gt;But it had the desired effect: helping him stand out.<p>But actually:<p>&gt;While De La Rosa is still looking for a full-time staff position, he&#x27;s gotten contract work in the meantime.<p>wtf? It didn&#x27;t seem to do the thing at all ...
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Gualdrapoabout 1 month ago
I use(d) to post my stuff at the &quot;Who wants to be hired?&quot;&#x2F;&quot;Freelancer? Seeking a freelancer?&quot; posts from here. At one time (like two years ago) I got an email from someone claiming they would get me a job but I&#x27;d need to give them 10% (or 15%? can&#x27;t remember) of whatever I was to earn.
lumostabout 1 month ago
I suspect that we are trending towards a baseline where interviews are gamed too heavily to be useful.<p>If your pool of interviewers becomes calibrated to external candidates who either use competitive programmers in their stead or well tuned AI - it wont be practical to hire.
robotnikmanabout 1 month ago
I actually tried this a few months ago, but via talking with some friends I know IRL, saying I would pay if they could land me a new position. I wish I thought of what this guy did and posted it on social media.<p>I&#x27;m desperate to land a WFH position again.
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singularity2001about 1 month ago
I&#x27;ll pay $2000 if you land me a job&#x2F;contract. AI expert[0] with best grades in math, shouldn&#x27;t be too hard. I&#x27;m just not good at reaching out &#x2F; networking.<p>[0] but no academic track record in AI, just github
mikedelfinoabout 1 month ago
What does it take to land a six-figure coding job? The $10k reward alone is nearly half of my annual income. I have no idea how good you have to be to earn that much.
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drewcooabout 1 month ago
Put that coffee down. Coffee&#x27;s for closers only.
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Uptrendaabout 1 month ago
Tech lads taking on 6 figure jobs and getting 7 figure mental health problems be like: &quot;I love tech... keep grinding &quot;
biesneckerabout 1 month ago
$10k is such an insanely small amount of money (compared to SWE salaries) for someone at a big tech company to risk their job for.
runarbabout 1 month ago
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hellisothersabout 1 month ago
Pay me $10k and I’ll train you up to get a (mobile) FAANGy job in a couple months. Paying for the referral you’re not getting much.
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leptoniscoolabout 1 month ago
this is such a large red-flag.. with layers of conflicts of interest
oncallthrowabout 1 month ago
Referrals are near-worthless, you&#x27;re wasting your money
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