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Are FreeBSD Jails a Containers?

13 pointsby vermadenabout 1 month ago

5 comments

sshineabout 1 month ago
My impression is that once we didn’t want to call jails for containers to differentiate them to jails’ advantage: they’re essentially more secure. They’re not <i>just</i> containers (if your frame of reference is Linux).<p>But since containers have become such a hype in our global infrastructure, and people are seeking off the big cloud platforms, perhaps it is more in FreeBSD’s interest to remind off-clouders that FreeBSD does have container technology.
tombertabout 1 month ago
Man Allan Jude is a name I haven&#x27;t heard in awhile. I was a big fan of Jupiter Broadcasting back around ~2013-2015, and I used to listen to &quot;BSD Now&quot;, even though I didn&#x27;t run BSD. Kind of sad how nuts Bryan Lunduke and to a lesser extent Chris Fisher have gone, since I used to love listening to all their shows while driving to and from work.<p>Anyway, when I ran FreeNAS in 2015, I certainly thought of Jails as containers, and I thought of them as roughly analogous to Docker. I always thought of both of them as &quot;light VMs&quot;, `chroot` on steroids is not a terrible way to put it, as the article pointed out. They both share their host kernels and have lower overhead than something like QEMU or bhyve or Xen. I guess Docker feels a bit more declarative, but that seems more like a layer on top of the underlying tech of cgroups and whatnot than anything else.
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dpe82about 1 month ago
This feels like arguing about semantics for arguments&#x27; sake.
TZubiriabout 1 month ago
I had people fight me on this twice on HN and reddit. Although I often contended that containers are virtualization, which is what brought pushback.<p>I&#x27;m a bit lazy to dig it up. But if a stalker wants to feel free to dig it up.
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jmclnxabout 1 month ago
I have used Jails in the past, and whatever they are I still think Jails are more secure then Linux&#x27;s container of the day.