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Is Free Will just a beautiful lie?

2 pointsby mohi-kalantariabout 1 month ago
“On a scale of 1 to 10, how much credit do you give to yourself for getting to where you are?”<p>This question has always fascinated me. I’ve asked this question from numerous people and based on people’s background and how much they have suffered, I get all the numbers from 1 to 10. (or even higher)<p>I don’t know much about our “Soul” and its effect, whether we carry something from our past life (if we had any) but I can see these factors as things that truly shape us: - Family - Surroundings&#x2F;Community (somehow family again) - IQ&#x2F;brain capacity and our appearance<p>We have no say in any of these and are totally random. Whatever we do and decide, can be traced back to these factors.<p>I’d like to argue we humans are static functions generating the same results if fed the same inputs. If a supercomputer can capture all the inputs from the beginning and does the required processing, we can become deterministic creatures.<p>Back to the first question, people like to compare themselves with people of the same age, arguing I have decided to suffer and grow at some point blah blah and because of that give more credit to their “will” and themselves.<p>I’d say it’s easy to compare yourself when you are 25 or 30 but do you ever compare two kids aged 5 in totally different circumstances?<p>Another interesting fact supporting this: In 1983, Benjamin Libet and colleagues conducted a study revealing that the brain&#x27;s readiness potential (Bereitschaftspotential) begins approximately 550 milliseconds before a voluntary action. Participants reported conscious awareness of their intention to act about 200 milliseconds before the movement, suggesting that unconscious neural processes initiate actions prior to conscious awareness. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;6640273&#x2F;<p>In my mind all of this leads to “illusion of will”. Although I do not look at it in a nihilistic way, it just helps me be more humble and embrace the randomness of the world and appreciate what I have.

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Festroabout 1 month ago
I&#x27;ve always struggled with this concept. I ask people to define &#x27;free will&#x27; when they start to talk about it. As there only seems to be either causally determined processes or indetermined (random) ones. There&#x27;s no inbetween where something like a consciousness can make a &#x27;free&#x27; choice between options. That choice is always a product of weighted factors like memories, mood, stray particles blasting through my brain, etc.<p>My will is my ability to weigh up options but it&#x27;s not &#x27;free&#x27;.<p>The one angle that&#x27;s started to pop up more and more in research that looks promising is that of the brain&#x27;s possible use of micro-tubules that allow for cognitive interaction with a quantum state. i.e. possible decision-making within an indeterminate plane.<p>Here&#x27;s a study on the concepts:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.frontiersin.org&#x2F;journals&#x2F;integrative-neuroscience&#x2F;articles&#x2F;10.3389&#x2F;fnint.2012.00093&#x2F;full" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.frontiersin.org&#x2F;journals&#x2F;integrative-neuroscienc...</a><p>Or that just means our brains found an evolutionary edge by shifting decision-making to a dice roll when being locked into totally causal decision-making was becoming a disadvantage. i.e. the ape that could innovate because it did random things came out on top more than the ape that was totally derivative in its behaviours.
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rlnvlcabout 1 month ago
I highly recommend reading &quot;Determined&quot; by Robert Sapolsky.