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My next text editor

61 pointsby briangonzalezalmost 13 years ago

22 comments

chealdalmost 13 years ago
SublimeText2 continues to impress me, and the more I use it, the more I discover to love about it.<p>As to the "not Mac-like enough" complaint, you can install the Soda theme (<a href="https://github.com/buymeasoda/soda-theme/" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/buymeasoda/soda-theme/</a>) to make it more so, and it's configurable out the wazoo, so if there's something you don't like, you can probably fix it (and someone probably already has with a plugin). Just the existence of the package manager makes Sublime a better experience than most other text editors, because it's insanely easy to add additional functionality as desired.
dchestalmost 13 years ago
TextMate is over? I guess 27 commits since yesterday is nothing then? <a href="https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master</a>
kjhughesalmost 13 years ago
"Cursed at Emacs a few times in college."<p>I've had quite the opposite experience: I marveled at Emacs many times in college and have been delighted to be able to use it continuously on so many machines and OSes over three -- now starting on four -- decades.
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kryptisktalmost 13 years ago
I must say I don't get this panicking over TextMate at all. If you liked it before, how can the open sourcing not be a huge plus? Surely there will form a development community around it now even if the main author will be less active and if you have an itch to scratch you can help it yourself. How can that be a bad thing?
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notJimalmost 13 years ago
So here's a meta question: how could we have a comment thread in response to this that doesn't turn into a flame war?
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powerslave12ralmost 13 years ago
I used Sublime Text 2 on all my machines for over a month for Python and C. It was great for about 90% of the things. But I ended up going back to jedit because of:<p>- The way split views are handled for:<p>a. The same file in multiple views.<p>b. Non-global scope on 'Ctrl+P' in multiple views.<p>- Better Highlighter plugin. (The existing ones for ST2 don't provide the same features)<p>- The Hypersearch (and the overall search/replace dialog) in jedit is awesome.<p>On a quick search I didn't find the options to get these preferences, but I'm sure they will come to be, if they haven't already. (Please feel free to suggest the options if I'm overlooking anything.)<p>That said, the reason I switched back to jedit is because I was much faster in it even though I had got a good hang of ST2.<p><i>Aside</i>: I never see jEdit being discussed in these editor discussions. Personally, I feel it's the best editor out there today despite being dependent on the jre.<p>It checks all the right boxes:<p>- GPL/Open source<p>- Free<p>- Cross platform<p>- Huge repository of plugins<p>- Amazing font rendering<p>- Highly configurable<p>- Really nice search/replace hypersearch feature.<p>- Great themes available<p>..and a lot more things.
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thesnarkalmost 13 years ago
I would be interested to hear what modern features are not possible in vim or emacs.
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crazygringoalmost 13 years ago
&#62; <i>I almost picked Chocolat, but its performance problems gave me pause.</i><p>I've been using Chocolat and loving it for the past month -- I feel like it hits exactly the right balance between minimalism and features. It does everything you need it to do, and exactly nothing more.<p>But performance is definitely its biggest problem by far -- everything starts out fast, but after a few hours CPU usage goes way up (even when you're not doing anything) and saving trivially small files takes several seconds. Basically, you have to restart the app every couple hours to keep everything running well.<p>But as long as development continues actively, I assume (hope) problems will be fixed...
SeoxySalmost 13 years ago
I've only ever had two true loves, when it comes to text editors. Like Marco, I was happily married to TextMate for a good 5 years or so.<p>But over the past few years, I've slowly gotten over the divorce, and found true love again in `vim`. I recently added 'tmux' to the mix, for the ultimate perfection of a <i>ménage à trois</i>.<p><a href="http://akhun.com/seo/skitch/Screen_Shot_2012-08-10_at_3.16.12_PM-20120810-151621.png" rel="nofollow">http://akhun.com/seo/skitch/Screen_Shot_2012-08-10_at_3.16.1...</a>
nestlequ1kalmost 13 years ago
Sublime Text 2 won out, just barely. I had the same experience, but after 6mo of fulltime use of ST2, I'm a diehard fan. It still needs to be improved in a lot of areas (project wide find/replace is not optimal), but I have confidence the developer and community is progressing faster than any other text editor.<p>Seems like a good place to be
juddlyonalmost 13 years ago
I laughed at the thought of neckbeards cursing their screens when they saw VIM and Emacs under 'Alternative Lifestyles.'
rexfalmost 13 years ago
I also use Sublime Text 2 (both OSX &#38; Win7). Is there any hotkey cheatsheet/tutorial available? I'm 99% sure I'm not taking advantage of countless power features because there's no way to stumble upon all the features.<p>Also, Marco used "Samsung-like resemblance". Phrase needs no explanation.
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kennywinkeralmost 13 years ago
Not a lot of BBEdit love going on in the comments, so I'll throw this in... I switched from TextMate to BBEdit when 10.0 came out. Haven't looked back. There was a brief adjustment period, and I had to do some customization to cope with the change (default font is way too small, for instance). But it's been long enough now that I'm pretty sure I could switch to stock BBEdit, and be happy.<p>Rock solid, deep feature set, good support, will never go away... what's not to like?<p>Ok well, there are some things I don't like:<p>1. needs better syntax highlighting support 2. needs to adapt to languages better (e.g. native syntax check scripts for most languages, autocomplete) 3. search dialog could use an overhaul. 4. default font / color scheme isn't to my liking.<p>What was my point? Oh yeah, I like BBEdit.
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dromidasalmost 13 years ago
Hacker News title should have (mac) in it somewhere. I was very disappointed after opening it up :P
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johanschalmost 13 years ago
Yeah, emacs is not hipster-compatible.
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terhechtealmost 13 years ago
I also used Textmate 1 for the better part of 5 years. After that I slowly migrated to Vim because I liked it's text selection / text movement language so much.<p>Now I guess I arrived, I'm rather fast with Vim. I took a long time (at least a couple of weeks) of continuously refining my MacVim until it's not so ugly anymore; in fact, I think it looks pretty good.<p>Apart from that, I also played around with Sublime, and I like it a lot, I'm just so used to vim now.
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facorreiaalmost 13 years ago
"Development has just been open-sourced after 7 months of going almost nowhere, so it’s probably safe to assume that it’s effectively abandoned."<p>I can see why one would make that assumption, but I wouldn't call it a "safe" assumption. It might just be the contrary: development may pick up speed given the massive fanbase that TextMate was able to gather.
twodayslatealmost 13 years ago
Notepad++ is still alive.
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realizealmost 13 years ago
This thread is doomed to become complaints from vim and emacs users. I agree with Marco on the hard to learn, but mainly the <i></i>ugly<i></i> comments.<p>As a recent convert to ST2 from eclipse, I agree with his choice. Also, recently having to use windows at a client site, a portable version of ST2 has been very comfortable.
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prestyalmost 13 years ago
if textmate2 is opensourced, why isn't anyone picking it up and creating a community around it?
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bstewartnycalmost 13 years ago
Vjj
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heretohelpalmost 13 years ago
&#62;"very hard to learn" re: Emacs<p>Hrm. Decidedly not. It's a nominally modeless editor with no complicated mental creole to translate into from verbing the text like Vi.
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