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eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

163 pointsby amadeuspagelabout 1 month ago

13 comments

bityardabout 1 month ago
Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I&#x27;ve been wanting a web browser that can turn the &quot;regular web&quot; (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks.<p>Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time.<p>But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunch of gestures and can no longer scroll. Pressing the back button does nothing. Closing the tab asks me if I want to discard my unsaved changes?!<p>So I&#x27;m guessing this is some CSS&#x2F;JS to make a regular site _behave_ something like an e-reader? Which may be fine as far as it goes, I just don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a good idea to hijack the scroll
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das_keyboardabout 1 month ago
The article contains a paragraph about ads and it reads like a nightmare:<p>&gt; The full-page advertisement you saw on the previous page is an example.<p>&gt; the paginated website design opens up new possibilities for ad placement and presentation, allowing for innovative approaches in terms of ad type, location, size, and interaction compared to traditional scrolling.<p>&gt; highlighted and annotated sections often represent the user&#x27;s key interests, allowing for more targeted and relevant ad placements<p>&gt; ads embedded in the website will be included in these downloaded PDFs, increasing ad exposure each time the user reviews the PDF file.<p>&gt; Paid subscribers could download ad-free PDFs, while non-paying users receive PDFs with embedded advertisements, providing a tiered reading experience.
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groby_babout 1 month ago
This, the same as dark mode, and media queries etc, all completely undermines the core idea of the web - a semantic representation of data, rendered by a user agent, according to the users preferences.<p>CSS &amp; JS are the opposite.<p>Yes, I realize it&#x27;s a losing battle, but it&#x27;s a depressing thing nonetheless.
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carlosjobimabout 1 month ago
This is something genius from the article:<p>&quot;WYSIWYG Printing (PDF Saving)<p>When printing web pages, browsers typically use a default pagination algorithm that rearranges the content based on the printed paper size. This ensures images aren&#x27;t cut off by page boundaries. However, this pagination isn&#x27;t tailored to the user&#x27;s current device screen size. Instead, it uses standard paper dimensions like A4, A3, or B5. As a result, when downloading a PDF on a small-screen device using A4 sizing, the text may appear too small to read comfortably in a PDF reader, requiring zooming. This leads to the same issues as general web page zooming: inability to view full lines of text and the need for constant horizontal scrolling.<p>In Eink mode, pressing the print button will produce a PDF that mirrors the screen&#x27;s display. While the paper size might be larger, resulting in surrounding whitespace, using an E Ink device&#x27;s native PDF reader (such as Onyx&#x27;s Neoreader) to automatically crop the margins will create a PDF that exactly matches the on-screen view. All highlighted annotations and handwritten notes will be preserved in their original page positions, achieving a true &#x27;What You See Is What You Get&#x27; experience. This allows users to conveniently save and later review content on the same device without text size issues.&quot;
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jack101311about 1 month ago
Hi everyone, I&#x27;m the author of this article. I was informed that my article has been shared here. I&#x27;m really glad to see the feedback and comments from so many people. I understand that this project is not perfect and has many areas that need improvement, as it&#x27;s still in its early stages of development. I will do my best to make it as good as possible. Thank you all for your support !
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chambersabout 1 month ago
In lieu of an e-ink monitor, I use a hotkey to toggle &quot;Grayscale&quot; filtering on my Mac.<p>It&#x27;s taking some of the addictiveness out of my screen viewing.
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MPSFounderabout 1 month ago
Side note: is there any eink monitor someone recommends? I have a macbook pro, a macbook air and a remarkable pro. The Remarkable pro (has colors) flickers way too much. My macbook pro also uses miniled which dries my eyes. It is using PWM I figured (work laptop, so I used it docked). I want an eink monitor with no flickers, that is easy on the eyes. The macbook air screen is great compared to the macbook pro (does not use PWM). I thought I don&#x27;t need color on the eink monitor, but syntax highlighting helps ... Maybe I am just getting old ha, but I sit in front of monitors for 10-12 hours a day
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keheliyaabout 1 month ago
I wish this was supported by default in the Kindle browser. I wonder if there was a way to make it an extension or a wrapper and make it available in eink device browsers. But it seems that even this blog post page is not supported in the Kindle browser. (I don&#x27;t see the eink mode icon.)<p>The requirements for me are simple, primarily to make consuming web content on my kindle scribe easier.<p>* Instead of scrolling by finger gestures (which is a pain to watch on slowly-refreshing eink), have two buttons on the side to do page up and down. * Disable animations * Ability to increase&#x2F;decrease font size.<p>I attempted to make this happen for my mastodon feed [here](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;keheliya-slowdon.web.val.run&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;keheliya-slowdon.web.val.run&#x2F;</a>). source available [here](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.val.town&#x2F;v&#x2F;keheliya&#x2F;slowdon" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.val.town&#x2F;v&#x2F;keheliya&#x2F;slowdon</a>). Then there&#x27;s [Kindly RSS reader](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nicoan&#x2F;kindly-rss-reader">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nicoan&#x2F;kindly-rss-reader</a>)<p>The goal is to be able to access all the text content that I consume regularly without much pain on a kindle.
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gdonelliabout 1 month ago
Love this idea!<p>I have been working on a way to turn your phone into a better reader device with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astropad.com&#x2F;bookcase" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astropad.com&#x2F;bookcase</a>
OptCohTomoabout 1 month ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opg.optica.org&#x2F;oe&#x2F;fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-33-3-6017&amp;id=567812" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opg.optica.org&#x2F;oe&#x2F;fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-33-3-6017&amp;id=5...</a> A little off topic, but Figures 12 and 13 show optical coherence tomography images of Kindle Paperwhite display layers. The E-Ink, touch screen electrodes, and lightguide layers are shown.
mattlabout 1 month ago
Really like this.<p>In Safari on iOS this works great. If this combined dark mode and reader mode font sizes I’d call my favorite way to read the mobile web.
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qingcharlesabout 1 month ago
This sounds like it needs to be a new media query in CSS. It could overlap heavily with the print media query.
egypturnashabout 1 month ago
Honestly now I want &quot;paged mode&quot; as an option in my browsers next to &quot;reader mode&quot;. Or a thing I can choose for reader mode to involve.<p>Flipping pages on my desktop with l&#x2F;r arrow keys (which is what this &#x27;eink mode&#x27; does if you invoke it on a desktop) instead of endlessly scrolling is <i>pretty nice</i>.
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