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Eccfrog512ck2: An Enhanced 512-Bit Weierstrass Elliptic Curve [pdf]

45 pointsby bikenagaabout 1 month ago

4 comments

commandersaki28 days ago
Why this over Curve448 and Ed448. Does the curve lend itself to an easier implementation? From what I can see there doesn't seem to be a compelling story here.
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Retr0id28 days ago
They say coefficient b is determined via BLAKE3, but unless I&#x27;m missing it, they don&#x27;t actually say how?<p>They also claim that the prime modulus was chosen &quot;carefully&quot;, and enumerate its favourable properties, but do not elaborate on <i>how</i> it was chosen. Presumably they had some code that looped until they found a prime that gave them all the right properties, but it would be good if they shared that process.
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kevvok28 days ago
With the industry pivoting towards focussing on post-quantum algorithms, I’d be surprised if yet another elliptic curve gains much traction.
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quesomaster900028 days ago
Well, I&#x27;ve tried manually verifying the curve parameters and I don&#x27;t trust this.<p>* The generator isn&#x27;t selected deterministically<p>* The BLAKE3(seed) in the OpenFrogget code doesn&#x27;t match what I get with Python &amp; Javascript implementation of Blake3, the index &amp; seed aren&#x27;t specified in the paper<p>* The paper doesn&#x27;t provide a reference for why `a=-7` was chosen (presumably because of the GLV endomorphism)<p>* the various parameters differ between the reference implementation and the paper and the spec...<p>There are enough many holes in this that I wouldn&#x27;t touch it yet, as a very quick glance into the spec &amp; the code leaves me wondering why their claims of reproducibility &amp; determinism re: the constants aren&#x27;t true, and the documentation &amp; code don&#x27;t match what I can reproduce locally.<p>So uhh yea... No