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Oracle engineers caused five days software outage at U.S. hospitals

174 pointsby jnord15 days ago

14 comments

cheema3315 days ago
Oracle has a horrible reputation among devs. But I think they bypass devs for purchase decisions and straight up wine and dine and bamboozle the low information execs.<p>When I worked at a megacorp as a dev, I had near zero say in such purchase decisions. I had to work with what I was given. Thankfully I work for a much smaller shop now. Better pay and much better decision autonomy.
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Pinus15 days ago
Is this the same Oracle&#x2F;Cerner system (&quot;Millennium&quot;, I believe) that, despite protests from the medical staff, was deployed &quot;big-bang style&quot; in the Swedish region of Västra Götaland, with much the same results? (And where during a press conference, where the management was explaining how nearly everything was going to plan, a doctor, who had somehow sneaked in, got up, shouted something to the effect of &quot;you’re lying, it’s a bloody disaster!&quot; and stormed out.)<p>(That was not an outage, though — as far as I understand the system was working, it just didn’t actually <i>work</i>...)
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wiseowise15 days ago
“Engineers”<p>Must be engineers who write requirements and unrealistic deadlines that lead to such issues.
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netdevphoenix15 days ago
Title should be &quot;Oracle execs caused five days software outage at US hospitals&quot;. If the systems helped save lots of life, you bet the engineers wouldn&#x27;t be thanked for that and it probably wouldn&#x27;t even be a news article
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amelius15 days ago
Doesn&#x27;t matter. They have all the good lawyers.
buyucu15 days ago
I don&#x27;t understand why anyone buys Oracle. Every Oracle product I used over the last 15 years has been awful.
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DontchaKnowit15 days ago
Used to work on CHS systems for Cerner. If I am not mistaken they were a &quot;communityworks&quot; client, which meant their databases were shared with a number of other clients - a &quot;multitenent&quot; envirnment, we called it. Completely bumblefucked design. Not surprised somthing like this happened.<p>Also - cerner software in general allowed hospitals to freely completely fuck up their own architecture. Sometimes ireperably.<p>If anyone has details about how this happened Id love to hear.
phaedrus44115 days ago
Can&#x27;t wait for the overpriced, late, outdated Oracle to get deployed at the VA! We get to go from one bad EHR to another...
xupybd15 days ago
I hate working on production systems and I hate any action that can&#x27;t be easily reversed like deleting stuff.
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surfingdino15 days ago
I&#x27;d risk to say it was compounding interest on tech debt, but it doesn&#x27;t sound as sexy, does it?
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johnwatson1121815 days ago
I think the Oracle Transaction Manager is one of the best pieces of software that I had to work with in a professional settings. Lots of other stuff in an enterprise setting is very flaky and follows trends but the Oracle internals seem very nice.
djoldman15 days ago
Is it possible to fix EHR without drastic changes in the health&#x2F;pharma&#x2F;hospital&#x2F;medicine regulation environment?
torgen-ai15 days ago
My company (torgen.ai) is looking for senior Oracle devs to help customers re-platform.
exabrial15 days ago
As a previous Cerner employee, this is actually pretty good.