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Someone at YouTube needs glasses

1424 pointsby jaydenmilne17 days ago

160 comments

rozab17 days ago
For a long time the grid of videos on the homepage has been slightly misaligned. I imagine the different rows belong to different teams. This means you can&#x27;t hover your mouse in the gaps between columns while you scroll to prevent videos autoplaying when moused over.<p>I find the autoplay so annoying because it hides the thumbnail <i>which was carefully designed to communicate why I should click on the video</i> and replaces it with, usually, a talking head or stock footage. Often the video gets inexplicably added to my watch history, and if I do choose to click on it I have to go back to the beginning because I missed the start of the audio
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Starlevel00417 days ago
It used to be 12 videos until about a year ago. If you zoom in and out the thumbnails don&#x27;t change size!<p>The worst casualty of the current design is the search. You get three videos before it inserts completely irrelevant and unrelated algorithmic recommendations. No? Fuck off? Do what I tell you to do!
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herpdyderp17 days ago
You can insert (and tweak) this into uBlock Origin filters:<p><pre><code> ! YouTube Fix &amp; Customization by Arch v1.8.4 ! (1&#x2F;11) YouTube 4 Videos Per Row Fix (Home and Channel Pages) &#x2F; YouTube Fix &amp; Customization youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer, html:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 5 !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer, html:style(--ytd-rich-grid-posts-per-row: 5 !important;) </code></pre> (source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;youtube&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1g5l9mc&#x2F;comment&#x2F;lsgnr02&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;youtube&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1g5l9mc&#x2F;comment&#x2F;ls...</a>)
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InMice17 days ago
Thank you for writing this post! I opened youtube a few days ago to this as well. On a 24&quot; 1440p monitor its ridiculous. It&#x27;s incomprehensible there&#x27;s a UI&#x2F;UX team that gets paid millions of dollars per year and the result is changes like this. Thank you again for writing this post. After searching it seems like they&#x27;ve been &quot;testing&quot; this in segments for a while now.<p>As a result I installed the &quot;Control Panel for Youtube&quot; chrome plugin and Im able to fix it back to 6 videos per row. I also found I could make shorts play in the traditional youtube player by default - which is an added relief.
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voytec17 days ago
FYI: YouTube provides RSS feed for every channel. The URL is as follows:<p><pre><code> https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;feeds&#x2F;videos.xml?channel_id=CHANNEL_ID </code></pre> And without downloading with yt-dlp, videos can be watched from youtube-nocookie.com in full-window mode (no distractions) under:<p><pre><code> https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cinemaphile.com&#x2F;watch?v=VIDEO_ID</code></pre>
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iMerNibor17 days ago
What gets me the thumbnails are now so big, they&#x27;re blurry since the images need to be stretched to fit now!<p>The preview is 530x300px on a 1920x1080 screen vs the image shown being 336x188px<p>How this passed any sort of QA is beyond me
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WA16 days ago
The worst thing about YouTube in 2025 is auto-translation. Whoever is behind this doesn’t seem to understand that many people outside the US actually understand two languages rather well.<p>In my case: German and English. I don’t want either to be translated to the other, but no chance. If you switch languages in the UI, you will get the garbage translated titles.
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dcchambers17 days ago
I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google&#x2F;YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts.<p>I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select &quot;show me less of this&quot; I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.
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meltyness17 days ago
Yeah this is late-stage &#x27;growth.&#x27; Hamstring your other products to reconcentrate activity, &#x27;rebalance&#x27; usage to Shorts content by making the original offering, long-form content less usable, lower quality, less interesting; and so shall it remain until some congress finally forces these players cut a dividend instead of this moronic buybacks situation, hysterical that &lt;well-liked female northeast senator and presidential primary candidate whose policy positions had been featured here&gt; abruptly stopped talking about this for no apparent reason.<p>It&#x27;s kind of conceptually like a Shepard&#x27;s tone, though, which is maybe interesting.
vinnymac17 days ago
I can&#x27;t speak for the desktop experience lately, but just last weekend I opened the YouTube app on iOS to this peak user experience:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;files.catbox.moe&#x2F;vzo65c.JPG" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;files.catbox.moe&#x2F;vzo65c.JPG</a>
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insin17 days ago
I make an extension which lets you fix this to your liking (choose the minimum number of videos you want per row, while also fixing the spacing issues overriding the underlying --ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row CSS variable causes), plus many, many more annoyances and what I felt were missing options and features for YouTube, like being able to completely hide Shorts:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;soitis.dev&#x2F;control-panel-for-youtube" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;soitis.dev&#x2F;control-panel-for-youtube</a><p>Edit: for comparison with the screenshot in TFA, this is my Home feed on a 14&quot; MacBook. No Shorts, no Mixes, videos which are 85% (configurable) watched or more are hidden, stream VODs from channels which also stream, Movies and TV, and any channels &quot;Don&#x27;t recommend channel&quot; refuses to work on, can all be hidden for you:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;LUnpz9e" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;LUnpz9e</a>
II2II17 days ago
On the extrapolation to zero videos by September 2026: it is already here.<p>Seriously. Clear your cookies or open a private window. All of the videos are replaced by the message &quot;Try searching to get started&quot;. Granted, as someone who clears cookies regularly, I like the change.
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Havoc17 days ago
Yes, for all their A&#x2F;B testing they could really do with a bit more common sense.<p>Like why do thumbnails have an invisible overlay that appears on hover over, hijacks the click and takes you to a support page about paid product placement?<p>I&#x27;m clicking on the thumbnail to watch the video not for a jarring detour off the youtube page to a boring help article. Honestly WTF. Maybe the UI designers don&#x27;t use youtube themselves?<p>This freakin page:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;youtube&#x2F;answer&#x2F;10588440?nohelpkit=1&amp;visit_id=638816279785823976-4079646274&amp;p=ppp&amp;rd=1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;youtube&#x2F;answer&#x2F;10588440?nohelpkit...</a>
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lukaslalinsky17 days ago
The nastiest trick for me is that no matter how times I tell YouTube not to show me shorts on the home page, they always sneak back in.
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puttycat17 days ago
The YouTube abominations keep piling up: Vertical videos on a desktop, endless ads (thanks to the Chrome manifest change that disables decent adblockers), useless feed.<p>I highly recommend installing an extension that hides the home feed and sidebar recommendations, which at least makes YT non-distracting again.
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constantcrying17 days ago
Also disturbing is how absolutely awful it is at basic design. You can even see it on the screenshot that the Videos on the third row aren&#x27;t properly aligned.<p>This is one of the largest corporations in the world and they make one of the most visited sites on the entire internet look like it was someone&#x27;s hobby project and they just couldn&#x27;t be bothered to align things correctly. This is <i>insane</i>.<p>The YouTube Startpage is incredibly bad in so many regards. Low in information density, full of things people <i>do not want to see</i> and fails at basic design. Even a basic, low effort redesign would be a major improvement.
parsimo201016 days ago
Obviously the model at the end of the post is a joke, but it implies that after September 2026 there will be negative videos on the screen. What does it even mean to be a negative video? There will be videos, but mirrored? There will be videos but the colors will be reversed? Will they play backwards? Is a negative video where multiple ads overlap each other?
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segphault17 days ago
The quality of the content on YouTube has declined so aggressively that the terrible UX almost doesn’t even matter anymore. They optimize to promote the most cancerous, low-effort, viral clickbait trash and the algorithm makes it incredibly difficult for anything else to survive or be discoverable. The culture of YouTube is absolutely vile.
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SurgeArrest17 days ago
Can I also have an option to block&#x2F;disable all YouTube Shorts on AppleTV and Samsung TV apps? Shorts is the biggest disservice to civilization - promoting time-wasting behaviours.<p>Also, promoting 10-20 minute videos with 2-5 minutes of content is also wasteful. Most videos are extended to 10-20 minutes just to be recommended by YouTube.<p>Finally, videos with AI voice, which I hope can be easily detected, need to have a label clearly visible and I want to have preferences to hide those completely.
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lykahb17 days ago
Displaying more videos gives more choice to the users. It may also be slightly better for collecting data about the user. But that&#x27;s reducing the impact of the algorithmic feed and is opposite to what tiktok does. I unironically agree with the prediction that the endgame is just one video.
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alpaca12817 days ago
On the topic of A&#x2F;B testing, it would be really neat if there was a way to opt out of it.<p>I cannot remember a single time in the last 5+ years when the website wasn&#x27;t broken in some way. Right now the UI has at least 5 separate bugs and a Premium feature of the iPad app has 5 distinct bugs which are also so obvious that it&#x27;s clear YT doesn&#x27;t even test their paid version at all.<p>YouTube is the best argument against opt-out (or forced) telemetry in apps.
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unhappy_meaning16 days ago
YouTube overall quality has been in a slow decline for the last several years and I&#x27;m sure it has to do with $$.<p>The UI is slower in almost all aspects, the grid mentioned here isn&#x27;t even aligned properly. Playback buttons are slow to respond to hovers and clicks and the 1080p quality is no longer a &quot;true&quot; 1080p quality.<p>Don&#x27;t even get me started with shorts because while the baseline functionality of it works, its pretty buggy for what it is. Maybe they are just too busy with scaling the entire thing that UI is an afterthought because the basic functionality is there and now its profits over quality.
schainks17 days ago
I already have no videos on my homepage! Just turn off all the suggested video in your account settings. I only use youtube to watch channels I&#x27;ve subscribed to or videos people send me.<p>I don&#x27;t care to waste time letting the machine guide me to &quot;discover&quot; something. There is the thing I need to learn&#x2F;watch&#x2F;enjoy _now_, and that&#x27;s it.
aenopix17 days ago
Ublock Origin in Firefox:<p>``` ! Display 6 per row youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer, html:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 6 !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer, html:style(--ytd-rich-grid-posts-per-row: 6 !important;)<p>! Block on profiles &quot;&#x2F;videos&quot; youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row:matches-path(&#x2F;.<i>\&#x2F;videos&#x2F;):style(display: none !important) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:matches-path(&#x2F;.</i>\&#x2F;videos&#x2F;):style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 4 !important) ```
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datax217 days ago
I&#x27;m not a fan of this trend either. My suspicion is this change is to increase scrolling to pump more ad space; it makes sense from a business standpoint. But this combined with the Algo changes makes it hard to keep coming back looking for new content VS just consuming the people&#x2F;content I know and enjoy.
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calmbonsai17 days ago
I&#x27;ve said it before. The secret to sanity when consuming YoutTube content is to never consume it on YouTube. The interface has been actively user-hostile for over 15 years.
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rng-concern16 days ago
On my roku youtube app, you can only see 2 videos in full. Yes that&#x27;s right, 2 videos. You can technically see 6 but there&#x27;s so much cutoff on the right and bottom that you can&#x27;t see what those videos are.<p>It&#x27;s insane. I don&#x27;t use it on roku anymore.
ChuckMcM17 days ago
This feels symptomatic of Google getting more and more desperate to have Youtube generate net revenue. All of the changes pointed out (and all of the &#x27;shorts&#x27; that litter the site) are explained as &#x27;additional monetization.&#x27;<p>If the author scrolls down another 5 videos and an ad will appear, etc. Shorts are designed so that they can feed more ads&#x2F;hour to viewers. Both are strategies to increase monetization on the site at the cost of customer experience.
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dmart17 days ago
My guess would be that this is in support of the preview hover feature. For a while now, you can watch an entire video just by hovering over it, complete with captions, scrubbing and audio. This wouldn&#x27;t be very useful if the thumbnails were still tiny like in the past. Personally, I like this feature and don&#x27;t often need to look at tons of thumbnails at once, but to each their own.
_QrE17 days ago
People see videos on the front page of YouTube? I&#x27;ve turned YouTube history off, and all I get is a warning that says that if I want &quot;the latest videos tailored to me&quot;, I need to turn that on. This is without being signed in.<p>Honestly, I think I prefer this. It makes my use of YouTube a little more deliberate since there&#x27;s no clickbait to click, initially.
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quantike17 days ago
One other point of annoyance with the new UI is that the videos actually aren&#x27;t aligned vertically.<p>I really dislike auto-play so I have always strategically rested my cursor in between the columns of video. Now, as I scroll, my cursor will end up within a column that is misaligned and start autoplay. The worst!
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Twirrim17 days ago
As a subscriber, I get 6 algorithm suggested videos (even split 50&#x2F;50 on subscribed vs suggested).<p>Then of course the content is also routinely interrupted by rows that take up more space than a row of video suggestions: * Premium movie suggestions, which also manages to take up half the width with just two sentences: &quot;Discover your next favourite movie. Watch without ads, included with your Premium membership&quot; * Shorts, despite me continually pressing the triple dots and saying &quot;Stop showing me this crap&quot;. * Interactive Apps (same, I keep saying &quot;not interested&quot; or whatever variant message it shows me).<p>I think I&#x27;m more irritated that youtube gives me the choice to say &quot;don&#x27;t show me this&quot; and ignores it, than I would be by not having a choice in the first place.
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hnburnsy16 days ago
&gt;YouTube homepage will just be one video<p>On Smart TV devices, there is One large ad on the first row, then 2.5 video thumbnails on the second row, no other thumbnails.<p>Looks like this...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;imgres?q=youtube%20app%20on%20smart%20screenshot%20layout&amp;imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fuser-images.githubusercontent.com%2F1414728%2F201799807-ddd5f26a-fab6-410c-afa4-c087aafeb376.png&amp;imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fplatevoltage%2Fyoutube-smarttv-emu&amp;docid=Yxak13vC74FSgM&amp;tbnid=SXcxI5Ie0yc4bM&amp;vet=12ahUKEwiOvZKnhoGNAxV1p7AFHb64E94QM3oECEUQAA..i&amp;w=1522&amp;h=936&amp;hcb=2&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiOvZKnhoGNAxV1p7AFHb64E94QM3oECEUQAA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;imgres?q=youtube%20app%20on%20smart%2...</a>
steelzzdev17 days ago
This is painfully accurate. I just opened YouTube on my 4K monitor and counted four videos before the ads and algorithm sludge took over. It’s like they’re actively hostile to screen real estate now.<p>The 2019 layout actually respected your time — now it’s just dopamine bait on rails. Feels like they’re optimizing for engagement metrics only a machine would love.<p>That graph made me laugh way too hard. &quot;Zero videos by September&quot; might honestly be the most realistic roadmap Google’s shipped lately.<p>Also, I’d 100% use a lightweight frontend that just shows recent uploads from my subs in a clean grid. No shorts, no nonsense. If no one builds it, I might.
Too16 days ago
Everybody needs glasses, not just YouTube. Excessive padding and large flat UI widgets, where only 4 points of actual content are shown at a time, is a bad trend that&#x27;s taken over the whole web in recent years.
padzochambers16 days ago
I’ve also noticed YouTubes lack of attention to finding me new videos that aren’t maybe in a category I’ve watched before. I find my homepage filled with videos I’ve seen before or just the same categories churning similar videos. Similar to Spotify, the app struggles to push new music and instead just regurgitates old music I’ve previously listened. I don’t get the same refreshing&#x2F;random feeling YouTube created before.
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mrandish17 days ago
I use a combination of add-ons to fix YouTube that let me:<p>* Block shorts<p>* Adjust the number of thumbnails per line, thumbnail shape, border, etc<p>* Limit the length of titles&#x2F;descriptions<p>* Force titles&#x2F;descriptions into normal upper&#x2F;lowercase<p>* Change the default player window size<p>* Show thumbnails actually in the video (from start, middle or end)<p>* Fix literally dozens of other annoyances<p>For Windows desktop under Firefox:<p>* &quot;Nova YouTube&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;raingart&#x2F;Nova-YouTube-extension">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;raingart&#x2F;Nova-YouTube-extension</a> script running under ViolentMonkey add-on. Nova YouTube is framework that puts modular YouTube fix scripts under one UI.<p>* &quot;AdashimaaTube&quot; script running under Stylus add-on.<p>* &quot;Enhancer for YouTube&quot; add-on<p>* uBlock Origin (of course)<p>For Android phones: Revanced Extended<p>For Android-based streaming sticks: SmartTube<p>Note: The set of add-ons &amp; scripts I use in desktop Firefox is just what I happened to end up with at the time I finally got fed up a few years ago, looked for solutions, tried out several and settled on this mix as working for my needs and preferences. YouTube is constantly changing (usually for the worse), so the landscape of community add-ons and scripts is constantly evolving in response. You&#x27;ll probably need to update to latest version on whatever solution(s) you use at least every couple months.
nottorp17 days ago
Hmm interesting. My laptop is about the only place where I occasionally open Youtube. I get 3 videos per row and it looks just fine(tm) because it&#x27;s a 14 inch screen.<p>I just experimentally opened youtube in a maximized window on my desktop with the 24&quot; monitor and ... it&#x27;s 3 videos per row again but I never noticed.<p>Perhaps all youtube UI &quot;experts&quot; work from cafes on tiny laptop screens?
qoez17 days ago
This <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chromewebstore.google.com&#x2F;detail&#x2F;unhook-remove-youtube-rec&#x2F;khncfooichmfjbepaaaebmommgaepoid?pli=1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chromewebstore.google.com&#x2F;detail&#x2F;unhook-remove-youtu...</a> and yt-dlp to download things from only subscriptions that interest me (and watch later offline) changed my life.
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TechDebtDevin16 days ago
They trying to turn all video platform UX into reels&#x2F;shorts&#x2F;tiktoks. Hell theyre even shooting movies on verticle IMAX cameras now for better translation to phones.<p>They would rather focus your attention on a single short video you can lock into and then transfer that focus to an ad suddenly. Its perfect for their business model.
radicality17 days ago
If you have a FireTV stick or something Android based for your TV, I can recommend SmartTubenext for browsing&#x2F;watching YouTube.<p>I still use AppleTV for pretty much everything else, but got a firetv stick just to use that. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;yuliskov&#x2F;SmartTube">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;yuliskov&#x2F;SmartTube</a>
guywithahat17 days ago
&gt; I miss YouTube before they turned the pain dial all the way towards money.<p>The worst part is everyone who tries to compete quickly turns the pain dial up to 11 as well. I realize YouTube existed for many years as a Google subsidized product, but Rumble is the best competitor we have and they can get quite annoying as well.
bukka16 days ago
I&#x27;m surprised nobody mentioned the volume slider being moved from the left to the right side on the player... They also removed the ability the use mouse wheel to control the slider too.<p>How does something as big as a player redesign go through so little QA on one of the largest websites in the world?
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markus_zhang17 days ago
I actually didn&#x27;t notice until recently. Guess I&#x27;m also in the test group.<p>I wonder what&#x27;s the purpose of this A&#x2F;B test? Definitely has nothing to do with revenue, right? So what could it be? More engagement? I doubt that few seconds added upon more scrolling won&#x27;t be much. Retention? Hard to tell.
jaarse16 days ago
This is most likely to do with changing viewing habits. Very little YouTube is watched on a monitor anymore. In fact for most channels it is 40% mobile, 40% on a TV and 20% other. I’m guessing the new format is to optimize for the TV viewer as this is also the fastest growing segment.
Timpy17 days ago
This is totally orthogonal to the issue but I think the best fix possible is to block the YouTube home page. I have gained value from algorithm-curated feeds in the past but it&#x27;s no longer a net positive in my life. I recommend checking out News Feed Eradicator[0], Distraction Free YouTube[1], and set up some extremely aggressive uBlock Origin rules.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;news-feed-eradicator&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;news-feed-era...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;df-youtube&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;df-youtube&#x2F;</a>
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CryZe17 days ago
For me they made it so large that I can only see 3 full thumbnails. The rest don&#x27;t even fit the screen anymore. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;11iI4sI.jpeg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;11iI4sI.jpeg</a>
blahaj17 days ago
&gt; Unfortunately, using an advanced analytics package I’ve projected that around May 2026 the YouTube homepage will just be one video, and by September there will be no videos at all on the homepage.<p>Doesn&#x27;t exactly that already exist with TikTok?
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troupo17 days ago
Here are more screenshots&#x2F;data points <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;nikitonsky&#x2F;status&#x2F;1916085438915150006" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;nikitonsky&#x2F;status&#x2F;1916085438915150006</a>
bunderbunder17 days ago
And on the iOS app, I can now only see 1.5 at a time because the thumbnails are so huge.<p>Which is somehow still an upgrade over the last version of the UI, where the titles of the videos were getting clipped off after about 16 characters.
sprremix17 days ago
This makes me appreciate my newly discovered &quot;Remove YouTube Suggestions&quot;[0]-extension a lot more. My homepage looks like this[1] and I absolutely do not get the feeling I&#x27;m &quot;missing out&quot; on any content. I just go to my subscriptions page, look at some videos and then close YT :)<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;lawrencehook&#x2F;remove-youtube-suggestions">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;lawrencehook&#x2F;remove-youtube-suggestions</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;zst96wo.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;zst96wo.png</a>
SnorkelTan17 days ago
I&#x27;m not a webdev, but I suspect an overwhelming majority of their traffic is on mobile devices. So that&#x27;s where a majority of eng time is probably spent. Not that it shouldn&#x27;t be fixed.
presbyterian17 days ago
I&#x27;ve stopped using YouTube directly. This is only for Apple users, but I started using the app Play[1]. It manages my subscriptions, keeps a watch later list (with smart tags and filtering, if you&#x27;d like), and you can even play videos directly in the app (and it remembers your place, better than YouTube itself does sometimes), though I still open it in the browser so I can use SponsorBlock.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;marcosatanaka.com&#x2F;#play" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;marcosatanaka.com&#x2F;#play</a>
Mr_Minderbinder16 days ago
People have always complained whenever YouTube changed its layout but I think the Polymer skin crossed a threshold of awfulness that caused people to start actively fighting against it by creating their own interfaces or finding workarounds on a scale we never saw with prior changes. I would take ANY of the pre-Polymer designs over Polymer which is truly in a league of its own, exemplifying everything wrong with corporate Web-design.
Yizahi17 days ago
My homepage on 14&quot; laptop has degraded from 12-16 previews (4 in row) to 9 (3 in row), lately since around late 2024 has a whopping 4 (four) previews. Amazing evolution. Such courage.<p>Also there are bugs there, and after some magic combinations of clicks I sometimes see 9 grid, or even rarely a 16 grid. Though it lasts only for one session and I can&#x27;t ever reproduce the bug. So the support is there, they made it shitty on purpose. And I even pay for that crap :(
jessyco17 days ago
I wish we could go back; A lot of googles UI&#x2F;UX is based on the next billion users experiences. I&#x27;m unsure how much influence this has on a day to day design choices they make. My experience right now on a 1440p monitor is 5 visible videos, 2 video ads, a ton of tags that I can&#x27;t turn off for finding videos.<p>There are a ton of great UI&#x2F;UX choices they&#x27;ve done over the years too; I just wish we had more options as a users.
ugh12316 days ago
It&#x27;s possible at that size (32&quot;) you&#x27;re triggering &#x27;leanback&#x27; UI mode, which is optimized for longer distance (TV like) viewing.
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n00bs16 days ago
It sure would be nice if they fixed the YouTube Apple TV app so you didn’t have to select which YouTube account you want to use every single time you launch the app on Apple TV. I guess someone thought it was better than the blank screen that used to greet greet folks when they loaded the Apple TV app after 24 hours. But this is just comically lame for folks who don’t ever switch accounts nor want to.
ryandrake17 days ago
One thing I don&#x27;t like about the &quot;old&quot; style (that I haven&#x27;t seen anyone here mention yet) is that it has all that whitespace on either side of the list. So much monitor space wasted! The new site uses it all. I wish sites would stop limiting their content to a small vertical strip of the screen. I bought a gigantic monitor and I rather like being able to use all of its pixels.
sans_souse16 days ago
Biggest gripes: 1) touch screen nav on a user profile is nearly impossible to scroll vertically, as any left&#x2F;right movements will cause you to jump sections (videos→playlists, etc)<p>2) Windowed mini-viewer (is a total PITA)<p>3) The &quot;full screen&quot; mode never seems to lign up where I&#x27;m either cropping part of the picture out or I have some stupid white slider-looking thing in one corner of my screen.
schnable17 days ago
This inspired me to check out my YouTube.com home page, and I have zero videos. I just see a message telling me I should turn Watch History on.
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cpersona17 days ago
Well YouTube no longer shows videos on the landing page if you’re not logged in so the tongue-in-cheek conclusion is prescient in this case.
mystified501617 days ago
I love how YouTube makes it impossible to resize your browser window to cover the title and description and all the flying animated like and view numbers. If you try to resize vertically, it pillarboxes the video to make the title box fit.<p>I have a vertical monitor and all I want is to put the video on one half of the screen without all this crap constantly cloying for my attention.
nvarsj17 days ago
I still don&#x27;t know how to &quot;go back&quot; after viewing a video on the mobile app. It&#x27;s so confusing. I just keep swiping stuff and eventually it works.<p>The google maps app has similar bizareness.<p>I guess somehow this all makes G more money, but it sure is painful as a consumer.<p>I&#x27;d pay money for a good hand-crafted (non a&#x2F;b tested) experience. Competition should be the true a&#x2F;b test :).
debunn16 days ago
I wonder if this reduction in videos on screen is a result of an experiment due to &quot;The Paradox of Choice&quot; &#x2F; &quot;Choice Overload&quot;?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thedecisionlab.com&#x2F;reference-guide&#x2F;economics&#x2F;the-paradox-of-choice" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thedecisionlab.com&#x2F;reference-guide&#x2F;economics&#x2F;the-par...</a>
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soegaard17 days ago
FWIW - the YouTube app on Apple TV has a similar issue. The video previews are so large, that one can&#x27;t get a proper overview.
UnreachableCode17 days ago
Highly recommend <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;untrap.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;untrap.app&#x2F;</a> if you want to remove some of the shit from YouTube like shorts, comments or the recommendation bar to the right of videos. It has a safari extension on iOS too (this costs about 3 bucks). Disclaimer: not my software
killerz316 days ago
If you have a new account or use it less frequently, there are no videos .... It just says start watching so we could recommend you something like this . What are they trying? All they want to show users are targeted ads , won&#x27;t even show any video recommendations until you give the algo something to target you with ads.
ssalazar17 days ago
Some of this is probably driven by mobile usage and unifying the experience between mobile &lt;&gt; desktop. But the truth is a team almost certainly tested this and measured an improvement of some topline performance metric. (Hacker News articles comparing YT before and after screenshots is not one of their topline metrics.)
brandon_bot16 days ago
Has anyone else run into the issue of having a horizontal scrollbar while viewing videos in full-screen (on desktop)?<p>There are some hits when I search online for this issue but in my case, it&#x27;s been happening intermittently for the past few weeks. Reloading the page fixes it. Not sure if I&#x27;m part of some A&#x2F;B test.
creatonez16 days ago
The reason I use old.reddit.com with RES instead of sh.reddit.com is very simple. The more posts that are displayed on the screen at once, the more I can subvert the algorithm by cherry picking just the high quality posts. If the UI is inflated, the more time I&#x27;ll waste on crap posts.
acheong0816 days ago
Use invidious. Youtube has gotten so bloated it takes seconds just to navigate between pages and load videos
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wobfan17 days ago
The bottom graphic is the best thing I&#x27;ve seen this week. That alone made me happy today. Thanks, stranger.
nickvec17 days ago
I stopped using YouTube a few years ago. It&#x27;s just so many ads that I no longer enjoy using the platform.
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WorldPeas17 days ago
&gt;zero thumbnails on the homepage I have this manually enabled, but also consider it could be true if they take the instagram&#x2F;x approach where you just have no thumbnail and are just dropped down the video flume right out of the gate. Don&#x27;t worry. We know what you want.
davidg70716 days ago
What bugs me is that often several of the videos will be things that I&#x27;ve already watched and it somehow forgets that. Or it shows videos that it&#x27;s shown me again and again and again and I&#x27;m not clicking on because I&#x27;m not interested.
fuzzy_biscuit16 days ago
Based on the projected rate of change, it sounds like the homepage will, after falling to 0 videos, eventually start removing videos from the site, so I consider it a win. There are only so many reaction channels that should be allowed to exist.
fernvenue17 days ago
Exactly, and maybe YouTube have a plan, have a god damn plan...By the way, I use <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;KcodeGG&#x2F;UserStyles">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;KcodeGG&#x2F;UserStyles</a> this to make YouTube back to old style :)
rfolstad17 days ago
Why does the youtube miniplayer suck so much?! X has the best one i&#x27;ve seen on any platform. You can actually pop the player out of the browser and move it anywhere you want and it has 0 chrome just a window with the video in it amazing!
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amai17 days ago
Google must not only sell Chrome, but also Youtube. Tiktok might be interested to buy it.
JasserInicide17 days ago
Mobile-first design. Get used to it, we haven&#x27;t even started to see the worst of it
e4016 days ago
One of the 5 videos on his home page is on mine. I always wondered how prevalent that was, because sometimes I get videos recommended from sources with a small number of views and channels with not that many subs.
iorekz17 days ago
&gt;Presumably by then we’ll have our mandatory NeuraLinks and the YouTube algorithm will be able to inject real-time ML generated content (and ads) straight into our brains<p>exactly what happens on a black mirror episode. Recommended!
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nullpilot16 days ago
For the past decade or so my bookmark has been set to &#x2F;feed&#x2F;subscriptions and I can only recommend that. The one or two times a year I end up on the front page act as proof it should remain that way.
555watch16 days ago
Has anyone commented already about the absurdity of watching Youtube Shorts? A wide empty white space, with a narrow vertical strip of content that is often stretched and split into two smaller videos.
buybackoff16 days ago
It&#x27;s not the count if thumbnails, it&#x27;s the algo that either does not work at all or works only for them. <i>Average</i> engagement and zero control. Paid or free, they do not care.
lifeinthevoid16 days ago
An unmissable browser plugin is “clickbait remover for youtube” (or whatever it is called), it replaces the video preview image by a still taken from somewhere else in the video.
ginko17 days ago
The iphone and its consequences have been a catastrophe for web design.
cyberlimerence16 days ago
If you use Youtube without an account, and disable watch and search history in the left menu the homepage stays completely empty of videos&#x2F;recommendations. It&#x27;s great.
musesum17 days ago
My chain of thought:<p>1) Aaron Marcus - who found optimal menu count to be 5 +&#x2F;- 2<p>2) Magic number 7 +&#x2F;- 2<p>3) Fitt&#x27;s Law selectivity (bigger is easier)<p>4) Shared layout for mobile + desktop<p>5) I hate short form<p>6) Is 5) a non-sequitur?<p>7) No! I now have the attention span of a goldfish.<p>8) Maybe I should read a book
jayshah569617 days ago
Goal for them to not watch too much content. I changed my YouTube account and increased from 3 width to 4. So probably if you are watching too much to discourage they are doing this.
alex113817 days ago
One thing that made Youtube work well in its early days was a robust and interesting recommendations system (for those who are old, like me). There was also a robust Trending section<p>They chipped away and chipped away at the usefulness of Youtube and the recommendations got worse and worse (and sometimes blatantly corporate), then they lied about what was trending, and now it&#x27;s just a mess (some of the recommendations can still be good). And I&#x27;ll forever maintain they absolutely do regularly remove videos (or demonetize channels) for reasons of &#x27;misinformation&#x27; (which they aren&#x27;t, at least some of the time); they&#x27;ve taken an ideological stance. And there&#x27;s a reason why the default homepage isn&#x27;t your subscriptions page<p>Companies do not listen to their users. I guess in part it&#x27;s because if you did you&#x27;d have to take on board every asinine suggestion under the cover of &quot;the customer is always right&quot; but there&#x27;s a middle ground, y&#x27;know? They just really don&#x27;t seem to care, giving any sort of feedback is like screaming into the void
viking291715 days ago
Those of us &quot;of a certain age&quot; are grateful not to look at a screen of 30 videos, all of them illegible because our eyes are old :)
chao-17 days ago
My YouTube changed recently from 6-wide to 4-wide. I wonder why I get 4 across instead of everyone else&#x27;s 3? Still annoying, and I still much, much prefer 6 videos across.
nzeid16 days ago
Anyone else&#x27;s YouTube home page just a white screen telling you to type in the search box? Because after reading this blog I might ask the author for some stock tips.
shanehoban17 days ago
Glad I&#x27;m not the only one who noticed and hates this change!
twalichiewicz16 days ago
I ranted about this a couple of weeks ago: two ⌘- taps has become my default just to make most sites readable.<p>When did 32-pixel headlines and 18-pixel body copy become “desktop friendly”?
geuis17 days ago
Their mobile site is also terrible. It&#x27;s like the designers forgot that people watch videos in landscape mode. For example, comments won&#x27;t load unless you rotate to portrait mode first. I mean, come on.
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crawsome17 days ago
Similar with Reddit. The redesign serves you less content and more ads, and zooms everything in. There&#x27;s no profit in giving you everything you want all at once.
Jemm16 days ago
Youtube has always been an abomination. I pause a video to see a detail and the UI covers the video in suggestions and nonsense when in full screen mode.
mirrorlake17 days ago
I quite like the 2x3 grid of videos. No complaints, actually.
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Eavolution17 days ago
I found YouTube completely insufferable until installing ublock origin, sponsorblock, and youtube redux to return to a more old school interface. How a single website single-handedly justifies 3 extensions in my browser I will never know but those geniuses at google have managed it.<p>Can&#x27;t recommend youtube redux alongside disabling watch and search history highly enough.
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seydor17 days ago
When you open any video on youtube.com the video players menus appear for a split second (some CSS is not hiding them). Keep getting this on chrome&#x2F;windows
esotericsean17 days ago
I got this view the other day and was shocked. Went and found a browser plugin to fix it. But I wish our voices could be heard or we could give some feedback.
Razengan17 days ago
Someone at HN needs glasses too, until then we&#x27;re stuck with this borderline hostile text&#x2F;UI size and colors trying to be as unreadable as possible.
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dawnerd16 days ago
This is so annoying, plus them injecting shorts basically every other row. Almost like they don&#x27;t want you wanting something that&#x27;s not trending.
godelski17 days ago
There&#x27;s just so much low hanging fruit at YouTube (and other places) that it&#x27;s wild. I can&#x27;t believe this shit goes on. No, it isn&#x27;t just OP I see 3 videos in the first row, and 2-3 in the second. First row contains a fundraiser video or membership video each time. And the info about ads takes up so much space a frequently click on it instead of the fucking video I&#x27;m trying to watch.<p>Also, I can&#x27;t believe this is a problem. But if you watch with subtitles and the video has embedded subtitles, they just clash. A fucking intern can write you the program to turn them off (ADAPTIVELY!) as needed. But when they clash both become unreadable!! It&#x27;s so fucking bad that everyone that makes shorts puts captions in the middle of the screen because YouTube puts theirs at the top. Like you got all this machine learning and you can&#x27;t use it for something useful?!?!?
kimixa16 days ago
Oh, I got this and thought it was a bug - I reported it assuming that somehow I must have been served the mobile interface on my 4k monitor :P
cucubeleza17 days ago
it&#x27;s just a big company doing big company things, don&#x27;t care about the user, only thing that matters is money and power, like dictators
daemonologist17 days ago
I&#x27;ve seen it display *two* videos at the top of the home screen (plus an ad and five &quot;shorts&quot;). Kind of comical when it happens.
darkeopteryx15 days ago
100% this. Please listen to what seems like overwhelming user feedback. Thanks, A disgruntled YT Premium subscriber.
_hao16 days ago
YouTube without the PocketTube extension (where you can customize stuff like that) is basically unusable on desktop. Give it a try!
cbmuser16 days ago
The problem is simply that managers at Google think that designs have to change all the time.<p>The idea that a design is perfect does not exist at Google.
pimlottc17 days ago
It&#x27;s because they want you to get hooked when the videos auto-play on hover, and that&#x27;s less likely with small thumbnails.
chii16 days ago
if you use tampermonkey, there&#x27;s a semi-decent script to change youtube back to what it was like in 2016 : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;7kt.se&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;7kt.se&#x2F;</a><p>it does jank up a bit sometimes (i can&#x27;t change the youtube region, and some other defects), but it&#x27;s sufficiently good that i keep it.
stuaxo17 days ago
Youtube on AndroidTV is even worse. Most of the pic is taken by the first video which is always a massive ad.<p>They&#x27;ve made it terrible.
sph16 days ago
&gt; I’ve projected that around May 2026 the YouTube homepage will just be one video<p>Well, of course. It’s all gonna be Shorts by then.
olelele16 days ago
On recommendation from someone here -on another Youtube-related thread- I started using the browser extension Unhook.<p>Can recommend!!
micromacrofoot17 days ago
It&#x27;s painful, but every single person in this comment thread is no longer part of youtube&#x27;s target demographic.
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kelvinjps1017 days ago
Idk but I prefer the modern one as the other one I feel there are too many videos and I&#x27;m unable to see them well
mitthrowaway217 days ago
I noticed this exact same thing! I looked in every menu for the setting to change it back. Nothing.
sailfast17 days ago
So who is building their competitor? Any shot in hell at this because of their huge library?
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hkchad17 days ago
This happened to me last week, used uBlock origin to set it back to 8 video&#x27;s per row.
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anentropic17 days ago
Yes this change is super annoying
asdfman12317 days ago
Fun thing to open first thing in the morning as I wait for my coffee to brew at YouTube
Macacity16 days ago
Funnily, when loading the page, it still display 5 of the placeholder boxes per row
magackame17 days ago
Let&#x27;s also not forget about automatic title and audio translations...
bambax16 days ago
&gt; <i>using an advanced analytics package I’ve projected that around May 2026 the YouTube homepage will just be one video, and by September there will be no videos at all on the homepage</i><p>Ah, the same advanced analytics package used by most consultancies and all politicians, which consists in prolonging a trend as a straight line until it reaches then end of times, and beyond.<p>The same very powerful analytics package that was recently used by AI fanboys to predict AI will consume 100% of the world electricity in a few years.
brailsafe17 days ago
Jokes aside, I just keep my watch history off so the homepage is blank
Alifatisk17 days ago
That advanced analytics package for projection gave me a good chuckle
the_other17 days ago
Vote with your attention.
2OEH8eoCRo016 days ago
Blame all the children on their iPads who can&#x27;t read.
efields17 days ago
I believe YouTube is crushing it as a content provider.<p>I assume they have the resources to measure _everything_.<p>They know what they&#x27;re doing. Your use case may be desirable, but they&#x27;ve determined it&#x27;s not profitable.
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Animats16 days ago
Never visit the home page of any social media site.
gh0stcat17 days ago
This reminds me of Pinterest, a platform I used to love for finding art and inspirational content as an artist myself. Without ad blockers, I would say 1&#x2F;3 to 1&#x2F;2 of all “pins” or images are actually ads, some of which are the nefarious “shopping” ads which look just like images and when clicked, take you directly to the sellers site. With the ad blocker, it is full of weird holes that just make the page look terrible. It feels honestly terrible as a consumer to have the experience degraded this much, its like having a storefront and half of the items on display are actually garbage you need to toss aside. And unfortunately there isn’t an obvious better choice or option. Also don’t even get me started on the scammy ads that are ai generated images or just all of the pins that are ai generated slop…
almosthere17 days ago
They should isolate shorts from real YouTube.
maxoakland16 days ago
You’d think they’d all be using google glass
quantadev17 days ago
I don&#x27;t even let Youtube suggest videos to me, nor do I use their jank Subscription system. I simply maintain a markdown file with a direct link to the &#x27;&#x2F;videos&#x27; page of each channel I care about.<p>This way I&#x27;m always in control of what I see. Sure Youtube can still slather me with ADs injected into videos every 2 minutes, and much of the content I watch has ADs right in the video, but at least I feel more in control by never giving Youtube the chance to unleash their algos on me to entice me into as much fake AI-Generated garbage recommendations as they can jam onto a page. That&#x27;s no longer a problem. I no longer dig thru their dumpster fire of a home page.
lajosbacs17 days ago
Let&#x27;s not forget defaulting the audio to an automatic translation. That is so dumb that I still a have hard time believing that there is not an option to disable this. They don&#x27;t even get any ad revenue out of this, it is just idiotic.
0xbadcafebee16 days ago
Pretty sure this is intentional to encourage doom scroll and to make the giant video titles and shocked-face-tiles easier to see and thus click on. Whatever gets you to click faster and make those ad dollars.<p>I&#x27;m more than a little disgusted by how moronic we are made to look now that every video tile caters to the dumbest person with the most base instincts. If YOU aren&#x27;t SHOCKED by this TITLE how will we get you to CLICK IT? :O :O :O MUST SEE this video BEFORE YOU CONTINUE READING HN <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0</a>
anigbrowl17 days ago
It&#x27;s the same with Google news on Mobile. I found an old Nexus one in a drawer the other day and tried charging it up, it still worked fine. When I opened Google News (from~12 years ago!) it was just a list of categories and 8-10 headlines within each category, a small picture for the top story in each category.<p>On my modern phone it&#x27;s all pictures and you can see at most 2 headlines at once. It takes a bunch of scrolling (= &#x27;engagement&#x27; = $) just to see what the top headlines are. Worse, the categories are all mixed together, so I keep being subject to sports &#x27;news&#x27;. Absolute garbage.
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karaterobot16 days ago
&gt; This is on a 32” 1440p display<p>What in the world.
mmmlinux17 days ago
Doesnt doing this make youtube impressions go up, since they are showing you the video with less immediate competition around it.
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youtubeuser17 days ago
&gt; Unfortunately, using an advanced analytics package I’ve projected that around May 2026 the YouTube homepage will just be one video, and by September there will be no videos at all on the homepage.<p>Lmao
brendanfinan17 days ago
YouTube is removing videos and moving to Shorts-only in a couple months, so this shouldn&#x27;t be an issue for long
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pier2517 days ago
Absolutely. It&#x27;s like they only test youtube on small laptop displays.<p>So many websites are not tested on large monitors ffs.<p>From the top of my head I remember the previous Gumroad marketing website. It looked terrible. Everything was huge. Even the new one doesn&#x27;t work that well on a large monitor:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gumroad.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gumroad.com&#x2F;</a>
fHr17 days ago
I mean I applied as SWE 2 but they don&#x27;t even proceed with any app, at least I solved meanwhile around 1000 lcs. So I can&#x27;t solve it for you sadly and people working there are probably to much in the ad business then doing actual core changes these days, to hard probably need for 1 small css change 7 higher manager approvals....
jszymborski17 days ago
Another reason to use FreeTube.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;freetubeapp.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;freetubeapp.io&#x2F;</a>
rambambram17 days ago
I thought it was just me experiencing this last week. I thought I accidentally changed some setting, even checked my browser&#x27;s zoom mode, and then just lived with it.<p>Also the lack of &#x27;gutters&#x27; to lay my mouse cursor to rest while scrolling is annoying.<p>But hey, I subscribed to your RSS feed. That&#x27;s at least some good news.
xanadu13217 days ago
never realized how annoying this was until now
bravetraveler17 days ago
List view, gang
moon216 days ago
&gt; Unfortunately, using an advanced analytics package I’ve projected that around May 2026 the YouTube homepage will just be one video<p>Algorithm will be 50&#x2F;50 - it could either be gore or AI slop.
ringeryless17 days ago
almost like they think a desktop monitor is a portrait mode phone screen... it&#x27;s not like we dont have media query API, google, but hey, it fits with the general dumbing down and phonification of all interfaces that should have stopped by now.<p>it&#x27;s not like they don&#x27;t have 3 layout sizes already enshrined, it&#x27;s that they are forcing the desktop layout to act like a portrait mode phone screen for no apparent reason other than trying to be on trend with enshittification or somesuch.
npteljes17 days ago
Honestly, this, and the other reasons in the thread (like the resetting preferences) is the reason why I don&#x27;t invest emotionally into platforms anymore. Been burned too many times. In most cases, I won&#x27;t fight the system at all - I&#x27;ll use the defaults, and if I don&#x27;t like it, I&#x27;ll go elsewhere. This have freed up so much mental energy for me.<p>SO much stupid bullshit is going on that boggles the mind. But they are only bullshit from &quot;our&quot; consumer perspective - they make perfect sense from other perspectives, like the creators, the platform providers, and so on. Most just boils down to the participants having different priorities. And to the power dynamics between them. For example - yeah you might not like YouTube (addressed to the creator or the consumer), but where else will you go?
cs02rm016 days ago
Is it just me... have they improved this <i>today</i>?<p>I&#x27;m back to 10 videos on the homepage from 2.
xoxxala17 days ago
Another recommendation for the Unhook extension. Literally cannot use YT without it now.
jaggs17 days ago
I hate to be that guy, but how many of us are actually paying for this service? Yeah we pay with ads and attention, but is there another company that&#x27;s prepared to store over 500 hours of new content every single minute? Yeah it sucks, but free is as free does.
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titzer17 days ago
Well, I&#x27;ve been holding this one in for a while but now&#x27;s the time, so it&#x27;s flame on.<p>YouTube <i>sucks so bad.</i><p>On the one hand, you have the amazing engineering prowess, enormous hardware resources, reliability and scaling of Google. The amount of sheer bandwidth of video that YouTube can pump is absolutely staggering. Having to deal with fraud, abuse, content moderation, copyright disputes, and to create an ecosystem that rewards creators and all...a lot of problems were solved. AFAIR from my days at Google, YouTube finally broke even in terms of revenue in the early 2010s. It turns a profit now--a massive one for any company except Google scale. Compared to search ads its still a pittance.<p>And yet, the product is getting worse and worse and worse. It&#x27;s worse for users and worse for creators and worse for society.<p>The UI is atrocious and the ads are annoying. It regularly breaks for me on non-Chrome browsers (maybe partly attributable to adblockers I run, who knows). It&#x27;s unusable with full blown ads. I just don&#x27;t know who has the patience to spend any time at all on a site.<p>With ads, it&#x27;s on again off again with interruptions in the middle of videos. Entire classes of use cases are utterly destroyed by ads in the middle. For example, I spent a significant amount of time collecting backing track and play along videos for guitar. Play along use cases are just ruined by ads. Full stop. YouTube is completely unusable without an ad blocker. So I do what I should have done, which is to rip the audio tracks out of videos and <i>put them on my local computer</i>. What an absolute fail of a computer system. The internet sucks.<p>But that&#x27;s just the ads. The UI--even optimized for tablets--is so stupid as to be nearly unusable. The basic functionality I want to use--SEARCH FOR A VIDEO--is hidden somewhere in a corner somewhere, doesn&#x27;t show up on most pages, tries to hide itself whenever possible, and in addition to that, the pages are clunky, slow, poorly organized, confusing, and reorganize themselves every six months. FFS I WANT TO SEARCH FOR A VIDEO. I don&#x27;t know how to find it now. I don&#x27;t know how to use any of the crap anymore. I counted and for some workflows it literally required me to use the back button three times to even get to a page where the search ICON was hidden in the corner somewhere using the quietest, unobtrusive labeling possible. They don&#x27;t even want you to search anymore.<p>What is this new UI regime we are in where the five basic functions of the video browser (at least for me)--play&#x2F;stop, advance, go back, search, and toggle full screen--are so badly labeled, hard to get to, and laggy, that it&#x27;s basically unusable? Oh, that&#x27;s right. All of those things are annoying for YouTube engagement that spends <i>all of my screen</i> on stuff that IT WANTS ME TO SEE--including ads. Like literally the entire point is to pull you away from whatever you are doing to watch something else...<p>Don&#x27;t even get me started on how <i>bad</i> search has gotten and how the ecosystem of videos is totally borked by the attention economy now. I find myself wishing for an option where any video made in the last 5 years is just excluded. Otherwise I just get some 8K video of some fool sitting in a racecar chair talking so fast and loud that I feel frankly assaulted. And some people edit their videos to literally delete the spaces between words and sentences.<p>It&#x27;s all so terrible and I kind of don&#x27;t want it.<p>...except that YouTube just kind of became the world&#x27;s repository of all video data? What does that mean for history when an ad company takes it over?
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loosescrews17 days ago
A 32” monitor should be 4k. If anyone needs glasses, it might be the author of this blog post as that is the typical market for low pixel density displays.
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pizzathyme17 days ago
I always laugh at these shots from the hip criticizing YouTube and Google. As though Google doesn&#x27;t have a entire team of data scientists and top tier engineers managing this experiment and driving it to optimal results. (Spoiler: they do)<p>If you don&#x27;t like the service, you can stop using it. And if you do, they have already factored that into their metrics guardrail, and it was the right decision.
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