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Progress toward fusion energy gain as measured against the Lawson criteria

145 pointsby samabout 9 hours ago

10 comments

edranabout 7 hours ago
This is a great update! I hope the authors continue publishing new versions of their plots as the community builds up towards facility gain. It&#x27;s hard to keep track of all the experiments going on around the world, and normalizing all the results into the same plot space (even wrt. just triple product &#x2F; Lawson criteria) is actually tricky for various reasons and takes dedicated time.<p>Somewhat relevant, folks here might also be interested in a whitepaper we recently put up on arXiv that describes what we are doing at Pacific Fusion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2504.10680" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2504.10680</a><p>Section 1 in particular gives some extra high-level context that might be useful to have while reading Sam and Scott&#x27;s update, and the rest of the paper should also be a good introduction to the various subsystems that make up a high-yield fusion demonstration system (albeit focused on pulser-driven inertial fusion).
CGMthrowawayabout 6 hours ago
I heard that NIF was never intended to be a power plant, not even a prototype of one. It&#x27;s primarily a nuclear weapon research program. For a power plant you would need much more efficient lasers, you would need a much larger gain in the capsules, you would need lasers that can do many shots per second, some automated reloading system for the capsules, and you would need a heat to electricity conversion system around the fusion spot (which will have an efficiency of ~1&#x2F;3 or so).<p>Any truth to that?
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dale_glassabout 4 hours ago
It should be noted that &quot;breakeven&quot; is often misleading.<p>There&#x27;s &quot;breakeven&quot; as in &quot;the reaction produces more energy than put into it&quot;, and there&#x27;s breakeven as in &quot;the entire reactor system produces more energy than put into it&quot;, which isn&#x27;t quite the same thing.
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actinium226about 8 hours ago
Why is the last plot basically empty between 2000 and 2020? I understand that NIF was probably being built during that time, but were there no significant tokamak experiments in that time?
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jamiek88about 1 hour ago
I’m excited about the new Squids design from the max Planck institute, it’s a design using the lessons learned from the existing stellarator the W7x.
damnitbuildsabout 2 hours ago
Hmm. How much of this progress is <i>really</i> progress to actual useful fusion power ?<p>I want to believe, but this does not make that easier.
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gene-habout 3 hours ago
This will probably need to be updated soon. There are rumors NIF recently achieved a gain of ~4.4 and ~10% fuel burn up. Being able to ignite more fuel is notable in and of itself.
NervousRingabout 3 hours ago
I&#x27;ve heard of q-plasma and q-total. What is q-science?
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UltraSaneabout 5 hours ago
The money being spent on fusion should be being spent building next generation fission power plants and liquid salt reactors.
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arghandughabout 7 hours ago
Maybe someday we’ll finally achieve the ultimate dream: an extremely expensive nuclear power plant that needs vast amounts of coolant water and leaves radioactive waste behind.
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