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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

956 pointsby mikenew5 days ago

87 comments

johnh-hn1 day ago
Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I&#x27;m legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I&#x27;m tall, and I&#x27;m almost bent in half to do it. It&#x27;s been hell on my back and neck. I&#x27;ve only really made it work because I&#x27;ve modified so many things to get around it (i.e. customising Windows, Firefox, and so on).<p>The part that makes it so tough is monitor arms come in standard sizes and are nowhere near long enough or extend far enough for me to sit comfortably. My dad modified my desk for me years ago to mount a monitor arm on wooden blocks, but it means I can&#x27;t move the monitor much.<p>Being able to wear glasses and ditch the monitor entirely would be a game changer for me. I know next to nothing about AR though, being as I assumed, perhaps wrongly, it isn&#x27;t something that would work for me.<p>Edit: Thank you for the replies. It means a lot. I&#x27;ve got some options to explore here now thanks to you.
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transpute1 day ago
<p><pre><code> There&#x27;s roughly 4 different approaches to Linux on Android: • virtual machine emulating x86_64 • Termux • arm64 binaries running in chroot • proot.. Same idea as chroot, but doesn&#x27;t use forbidden system calls </code></pre> Fifth option: arm64 pKVM VM from Android 15 on Pixel 7+ phone&#x2F;tablet hardware using nested h&#x2F;w virtualization. Shipped in 2025 under the uninformative name of &quot;Linux Terminal&quot; via Development options, Android now has full Debian Linux with VM root, no emulation, compatible with USB-c desktop display.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43973395">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43973395</a> &amp; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidauthority.com&#x2F;android-linux-terminal-purpose-3535765&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidauthority.com&#x2F;android-linux-terminal-purp...</a><p><i>&gt; The main purpose of this Linux terminal feature is to bring more apps (Linux apps&#x2F;tools&#x2F;games) into Android, but NOT to bring yet another desktop environment.. Ideally, when in the desktop window mode, Linux apps shall be rendered on windows just like with other native Android apps.. GPU acceleration is something we are preparing for the next release.</i><p>Hopefully Android 2025 Linux VMs will lead to iOS 19 VMs at WWDC, since Apple wants to sell smart glasses to compete with Meta glasses.
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titzer1 day ago
I have these same AR glasses and I really like them. The one downside is that they don&#x27;t seem to handle heat too well--they&#x27;ll crash if I run them in full sunlight for more than a few minutes. Also, they are not really AR--they are just a floating screen, and supposedly there is motion-tracking hardware, but no software. That&#x27;s OK; a big floating screen that is fixed to my head is actually good.<p>In full sunlight I think this requires opacity. I lost the plastic cover for the lenses and I hacked up some cardboard thing.<p>These glasses have a really cool 3D side-by-side mode. The button activation is awkward, but it effectively turns this into a 3840x1280 screen. I couldn&#x27;t really find much desktop support for this, but there are a few YouTube videos that are 16x9 SBS and they look really really cool. Unfortunately in this mode the desktop is then super-wide and spread across two eyes, so it&#x27;s almost impossible to use a regular laptop with them. A 3D OS desktop would be killer on these!<p>I didn&#x27;t try to go full mobile with a phone.<p>The cord is somewhat annoying, but I think I prefer it over a big stupid battery and some wireless protocol.<p>One wrinkle is that the interface is USB-C. The glasses need power, and though you can&#x2F;could power them over HDMI, they don&#x27;t support that. You need the device to support HDMI over USB-C and recognize the glasses as a display. The manufacturer offers a completely hilarious <i>battery-powered</i> HDMI-to-USB-C adapter. I have no idea why there is no powered solution; maybe there is.
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TuringNYC1 day ago
On a somewhat related note, I feel any specialized device development should come hand-in-hand with a great developer experience with a well-designed simulator experience.<p>I was an original Google Glass developer (2013) and not allowing development via a simulator was one of their biggest mistakes ever. You had to continuously test squinting into the actual hardware. After about 25min it would overheat and you were forced into a cooldown period of about 30min. You couldnt easily put together tests or parallelize testing mundane parts of the app off-device. I ended up with the worst headaches after three months and we pivoted our business to something else soon after.
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Stratoscope1 day ago
I don&#x27;t use AR glasses, and I don&#x27;t code on my phone, but I do like to use it for writing without having to carry a backpack.<p>The keyboard I use and really like is the iClever BK05:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B018K5EJCQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B018K5EJCQ</a><p>It is backlit and has a standard full size PC layout, including function keys and an &quot;inverted T&quot; cursor key section. The key feel is nearly as good as my ThinkPad. And it comes with a nice little stand to support your phone at a typical laptop screen angle.<p>It comes with a soft pouch that holds the keyboard, the phone stand, and the manual. Folded up, it fits easily in the cargo pocket of my pants.<p>Like the keyboard described in the article, it is not suitable for use on your lap because it doesn&#x27;t lock open. That doesn&#x27;t matter for me, because I need a place to put my phone anyway.<p>If you read the reviews, note that the &quot;top rated critical review&quot; has a glaring mistake:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;gp&#x2F;customer-reviews&#x2F;R1RVWODQ8SCS2X?ie=UTF8&amp;ASIN=B018K5EJCQ#R1RVWODQ8SCS2X" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;gp&#x2F;customer-reviews&#x2F;R1RVWODQ8SCS2X?ie...</a><p>The reviewer says that the keyboard has no support at the left and right edges, so those outer sections don&#x27;t lay flat and tap against the table as you type.<p>Wrong! This reviewer didn&#x27;t notice the two little black tabs that you need to flip out so the keyboard lays flat and well supported. This is also described in the short manual.
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d_burfootabout 19 hours ago
I feel like we are due for a revolution in computer interface design that will free us from our desks. I want to be able to do work while walking on the bike trail or sitting in a lounge chair by the pool. All the core concepts of GUI design - &quot;mouse&quot;, &quot;window&quot;, &quot;file&quot;, &quot;folder&quot;, &quot;desktop&quot; - were developed in a previous era with far tighter constraints on what could be done. Now we have voice understanding, wearable computers, AR &#x2F; VR, LLMs, cellular internet, etc. Even though the tech has advanced by leaps and bounds, the underlying UI concepts haven&#x27;t changed much.
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hansmayer1 day ago
Very cool experiment and the piece is written really well, manages to communicate a ton of relevant information without being overly verbose. One side note though - whats the deal with working in the park&#x2F;on the bench etc, is the author really able to be productive in an outside environment? I dont think I could ever work like that, either with or without the AR glasses.
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two_handfuls1 day ago
Oh that&#x27;s a cool coincidence, I was just watching a video of someone coding a game without a laptop. In their case it&#x27;s a VR game on a VR headset (based on Android), using Godot.<p>It&#x27;s not really related I know but it&#x27;s neat how all those not-strictly-computers are getting more useful!<p>Edit: forgot the video link! It&#x27;s <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;4ZAzi-4Ko3g?feature=shared" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;4ZAzi-4Ko3g?feature=shared</a>
montebicyclelo1 day ago
&gt; I really didn&#x27;t want to root the phone, but nothing else did what I needed<p>Shame that rooting is such a pain, and risks bricking the device. (Apparently Google&#x27;s introduction of an anti-rollback bootloader this month has caused a few people&#x27;s devices to get bricked when they tried to root.)
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resonious1 day ago
Man, I tried this too but eventually went back to a laptop. Though maybe that wouldn&#x27;t have been the case if I was able to use chroot. Still, for me, a laptop is quite nice for being able to just whip it out and start doing stuff immediately. With phone + glasses + external keyboard, I have to pull out several things and plug in the glasses.<p>But proot being slightly too slow is a real bummer. I was able to get a lot of stuff working natively on Termux, but every once in awhile you hit a wall and it&#x27;s sad.
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npilk1 day ago
The Xreal glasses are going to be the near-term winner for AR&#x2F;VR form factor. A “personal screen” you can carry around with you and use to look at whatever is on your phone in a much larger, private format.<p>This just adds more value more simply than the new ecosystems most AR&#x2F;VR glasses are trying to establish.
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zmmmmm1 day ago
I have been eyeing off this setup for ages but I&#x27;m stopped by the fact that the glasses only project 1080p displays. They seem to have been stuck at that resolution for years and I&#x27;m not sure if it&#x27;s a technical limitation or something else. I just know I wouldn&#x27;t use a 1080p screen in real life except in an emergency so I&#x27;m super sceptical that I&#x27;d be happy with the glasses.<p>Very curious why these have stalled out at 1080p. They don&#x27;t have to go much higher, give me 2560x1600 and I will be very happy.
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ireadmevs1 day ago
Awesome! Regarding the keyboard I would recommend going towards the mechanical path. Browse <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kbd.news&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kbd.news&#x2F;</a> for some inspiration. I built a 36 keys for myself that is portable and very capable. You can even map keys to control the mouse and much more. Definitely going to keep an eye on the advancements of AR glasses from now on.
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tomaskafka1 day ago
Wow, I had little idea the readily available tech is this far<p>&gt; Termux, which is an Android app that provides a mix of terminal emulator, lightweight Linux userland, and set of packages that are able to run in that environment.<p>Tim Cook, I know what you know (and fear losing Mac sales to iPad and iPad sales to iPhone, so you want them nerfed), but this would make me upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro. I’d love to be able to leave my expensive macbook home for the vacation, and still be able to do some emergency hotfix on a tablet with keyboard (ideally connected to eg. hotel TV).
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inatreecrown21 day ago
What I always wonder about with these Headsets is how can this not damage your eyes, focusing them at such short distance for prolonged periods. Anybody with experience in using such a device would like to comment on this?
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eptcykaabout 5 hours ago
…when compared to something like the Apple Vision Pro. Which, funnily enough, can&#x27;t do any of what I ended up caring about. It can&#x27;t fit in your pockets, and it&#x27;s no more capable of &quot;real&quot; computing than an iPhone.<p>I hope some exec from Apple reads this and thinks about it.
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eecc1 day ago
Poster laments the lack of a quality folding keyboard.<p>Well, though not in production any more, there is one that is absolutely perfect: Microsoft Universal Foldable Keyboard.<p>You can still find it on eBay, and it’s unfathomable — though perfectly in-character — for Microsoft to have terminated it.
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asveikau1 day ago
&gt; I unfortunately had to upgrade my phone, because to drive the glasses you need to have DisplayPort Alt mode. My very cheap, very crappy old phone did not.<p>I also run a low spec android phone, and I tried the same brand of glasses with it. My workaround was a screencast to HDMI adapter, paired with an HDMI to to DP over USB-C. Both are cheap.<p>Occasionally the screencast flakes out. But when the network is working well it&#x27;s pretty good.
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notpushkin1 day ago
This is neat. I’ve been thinking about doing something like this on my Quest 3, but it’s a fair bit bulkier than this setup. One upside is, you already get an Android and can setup pretty much anything you might want! (I’ve sideloaded F-Droid on mine, going to see if Termux works.)<p>Re: Bluetooth keyboard – you can get a Thinkpad keyboard as a Bluetooth one. It’s slimmer that the usual bottom half, so it’s much more portable. But it’s not folding, of course.
aucisson_masque1 day ago
I think the next version of Android is supposed to include a terminal that can run Linux.<p>I don&#x27;t know the specifics but it would be better than having to root the phone and use chroot.<p>It&#x27;s sad that a phone running java on top of Linux isn&#x27;t able to run Linux app without big downside like termux and proot. Hopefully it changes.
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bernardom1 day ago
How do glasses like this work for someone who wears eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism, and doesn&#x27;t like contacts?
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byb1 day ago
I&#x27;m hoping more people will author articles about using these types of displays full time. There was an article posted a month ago about someone using XREAL ONEs with an x86 PC and a portable power bank. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43668192">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43668192</a><p>I&#x27;ve done some cursory research on the XREAL Air 2 Pros because they are currently discounted at 299 USD. I&#x27;m interested in retiring a 4K 43&quot; monitor which has been slightly too large.<p>My question to anyone who has tried XREAL&#x27;s products is whether the more expensive XREAL ONE model provides a much better productivity experience for 499 USD?<p>So far, I&#x27;m not convinced the Air 2s provide a &#x27;stable&#x27; enough image for productivity tasks as this article states. I found a Youtube reviewer who created a rendition of what it is like to use them for video editing - and they weren&#x27;t enthusiastic <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-ZhD8Dt6akY&amp;t=316s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-ZhD8Dt6akY&amp;t=316s</a><p>Linus Sebastian from LTT did go on Jimmy Fallon a few months ago and show off the XREAL ONEs <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?app=desktop&amp;v=vybLi25Q8Fw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?app=desktop&amp;v=vybLi25Q8Fw</a><p>For me, I&#x27;m not interested in XREAL&#x27;s Android offerings; I&#x27;m more interested in Graphine or e&#x2F;OS, but would need to purchase a new tablet and a new phone with USB-C display output. I did pick up a Chuwi Hi10 X1 Intel n100 tablet a few months ago for about 200 USD, so that solves the battery problem for me. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.chuwi.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;hi10-x1-n150" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.chuwi.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;hi10-x1-n150</a><p>If I didn&#x27;t have that, and wanted to go the powerbank with X86 route, the company MeLE does have some very, very small mini pcs. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.mele.cn&#x2F;products&#x2F;mele-quieter-4c-n100-3-4ghz-fanless-mini-computer-lpddr4x-win11-hdmi-4k-wi-fi-5-bt-5-1-usb-3-2-2-usb-2-0-1-type-c-1?srsltid=AfmBOoqY8Gyl9K2z310zk7wNgC_c4h5DgzLXEE2uRwWXSMPbTG8DyJie" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.mele.cn&#x2F;products&#x2F;mele-quieter-4c-n100-3-4ghz-f...</a><p>To many people asking about keyboards, I&#x27;d recommend simply getting a 60% with bluetooth, or an adapter which converts a regular USB keyboard into a bluetooth adapter. I&#x27;m also a trackball user, and the Japanese company DEFT makes some decent ones.
az09mugen2 days ago
Nice to read I&#x27;m not alone thinking of this nomadic kind of setup. And also I got the feedback I hoped on the Xreal Air 2 glasses : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eu.shop.xreal.com&#x2F;fr&#x2F;products&#x2F;xreal-air-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eu.shop.xreal.com&#x2F;fr&#x2F;products&#x2F;xreal-air-2</a>
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gejose1 day ago
What a shame that you really can&#x27;t do this using an iPhone. Unless things have changed recently the closest you can come to this is using iSH to run some linux binaries (x86_32), but it&#x27;s quite limited last I checked.
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conradev1 day ago
This is my favorite portable keyboard: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.logitech.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;shop&#x2F;p&#x2F;keys-to-go2-universal.920-012867" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.logitech.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;shop&#x2F;p&#x2F;keys-to-go2-universal....</a><p>Unless they have a way to lock open, foldable keyboards will always subtly bend which is annoying enough for me to ditch the folding part entirely.
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mncharity1 day ago
&gt; FOV is actually too big [...] Seeing the top and bottom edges of the screen means moving your eyeballs<p>Or head tracking.[1] Aphysical rotation exaggeration avoids trading eye for neck stress.<p>&gt; I do feel a little weird wearing these in public, but not <i>that</i> weird.<p>Non-weird can be an expensive constraint, fruitful to relax if going beyond a minimalism setup. A baseball hat can barnacle quite a bit before people find it remarkable... at least around Boston. For instance, for head tracking, an Intel RealSense, or a hat fisheye camera and tennis ball on the table, or an optical marker on a hat chopstick, can be simpler, easier, lower power, and less expensive, than invoking &quot;and it has to look non-weird&quot;. With current tech, that&#x27;s almost as challenging as &quot;and it has to be a product&quot;.<p>&gt; as these AR glasses continue to improve and Linux continues to be flexible and awesome.<p>I suggest Nreal (now Xreal) made a bad call here. They developed internally on Ubuntu, but chose to shut out linux. (Caveat: I&#x27;ve not followed in a few years, maybe that&#x27;s changed.) Unicorn dreams and race to mass market - maybe the right call if everyone started watching media on phones with glasses. But it could have been an inexpensive risk mitigation, and a worthwhile investment once market fit was clearly a long haul. Is there some doc which lays out alternatives for a company who thinks they have a crown-jewel binary blob, to allow the community to wrap it for linux consumption, with minimal &quot;we just throw a blob over the wall - we don&#x27;t support linuxes&quot; cost? It&#x27;s been a lot of years that something like TFA has been possible, during which a lot of developers could have been exploring for viable market niches. Instead of... not.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;mncharity&#x2F;status&#x2F;1225091755667853318#m" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;mncharity&#x2F;status&#x2F;1225091755667853318#m</a>
hawk_1 day ago
&gt; The biggest downside of the glasses is that the FOV is actually too big. Seeing the top and bottom edges of the screen means moving your eyeballs to angles that are just a little uncomfortable,<p>Is there a window manager and&#x2F;or eyeball tracking trick that could be added to this setup to bring content into the center?
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hentrep1 day ago
I&#x27;ve long wondered whether working within AR glasses improves one&#x27;s ability to focus. My hypothesis is that I have fewer shiny objects in my periphery to create distractions. Can anyone who has experience with AR glasses comment?
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dankebitte1 day ago
&gt; On average I&#x27;d drain about 15% battery per hour. So 4 to 5 hours before you need to be thinking about charging, but I&#x27;m not sure you&#x27;d want to have the glasses on longer than that anyway.<p>I know there are splitters break a USB-C port out into a USB-PD port and a data transfer port, but can those (or a different accessory) also be used to provide PD <i>to</i> the phone for prolonged usage?<p>eta: Never mind, just saw that the XREAL Hub addresses this. I still wonder if there&#x27;s a cheaper option, but most seem to be designed for PD out, not in.
garylkz1 day ago
I remember back then my laptop broke during the beginning of COVID, and I was left with a smartphone that is incapable of doing Termux stuff.<p>To cope with that I have ended up making some toys like Discord bot that evaluates code, requested access from Insomnia 24&#x2F;7 to SSH into Linux environment for programming purposes.<p>It was fun experience and I&#x27;ve ended up learning a lot of programming stuff before I&#x27;ve even started my study in university for computer science.
cuvinny1 day ago
I tried this with the VITURE Pro XR (has adjustable lens so if you are nearsighted and wear glasses they work) but with a linux laptop. I couldn&#x27;t stand the static image (focusing on the top and bottom of the screen was painful) and wanted headtracking which only worked on Windows or the phone. There was a project I found of someone adding support for it but it was pretty jank at the time.<p>Anyways, ended up returning it but kind of wish I thought of just using the phone. Might finally get me to learn NeoVIM
dwedge1 day ago
I can only see out of one eye at a time, is binocular vision needed for these glasses to work?
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seltzered_1 day ago
<p><pre><code> &gt; Can someone please make a good folding keyboard? This little $18 piece of plastic is decent for what it is, but this was the weakest part of the whole setup, and it feels like it should be the easiest. </code></pre> You may want to consider the Protoarc xk03 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ErgoMobileComputers&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1akevda&#x2F;microreview_protoarc_xk03&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ErgoMobileComputers&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1akevd...</a> or adding a Bluetooth mod to the old palm folding keyboard: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ErgoMobileComputers&#x2F;comments&#x2F;sqvrsg&#x2F;20yo_palm_portable_keyboard_revived_with_bluetooth&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ErgoMobileComputers&#x2F;comments&#x2F;sqvrsg...</a>
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benkaiser1 day ago
I actually tried doing web dev on a Meta Quest 3 recently, but found the biggest limitation to actually be the lack of devtools in Android.<p>Here is the blog I did discussing the limitations: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;benkaiser.dev&#x2F;web-development-in-vr&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;benkaiser.dev&#x2F;web-development-in-vr&#x2F;</a><p>I wonder if something like this running on the quest could technically work, but I suspect it would be too heavy running Linux chrome in a chroot. You also lose the cool &quot;place and resize your windows anywhere&quot; if it&#x27;s all stuck inside one window for a desktop.
lvturnerabout 20 hours ago
I&#x27;ve tried this with a folding phone, it&#x27;s... Ok<p>On keyboards I found a Royal Kludge mechanical keyboard, feels great but unfortunately one of the keys switches is cracked, I&#x27;m sure I could glue it down but haven&#x27;t yead had time to dismantle it.<p>In terms of lilputian mice, the &quot;CapacMouse&quot; is.. far far better than it should be.
anonzzzies1 day ago
I have the same setup, it works well, been doing this for years now. I like to be outside as much as I can and for that reason I like having 20 hour battery life (good phone with an external battery). My setup fits in my pants pocket and usbc chargers are everywhere (bars, restaurants, hotel lobbies, everyone has then at home) if you don&#x27;t need to charge a laptop with them. Where I live is a lot of sun and seeing your laptop screen even in the shade is hard; no problem with this.<p>The issue with the top and bottom edges and the too low res are the only downsides; both will be fixed as time passes and the inconvenience beats lugging a laptop and charger around and finding outlets instead of literally never needing any except while sleeping.
harrison_clarkeabout 19 hours ago
i&#x27;ve been doing some hobby programming on a steam deck for the last ~week. (since i got the steam deck). it&#x27;s got a variant of arch linux pre-installed and it&#x27;s x86_64, so a lot of those steps are covered<p>might have to try it with AR glasses. but, the screen is bright enough that it&#x27;s usable outdoors anyway<p>i&#x27;ve been using copilot with voice input, with a bit of on-screen keyboard usage when it&#x27;s not cooperating. i&#x27;m mostly giving it fairly simple edit instructions (&quot;write a for loop at line 50&quot;), rather than full on vibe coding, and it&#x27;s working much better than i expected<p>i&#x27;m not using emacs&#x2F;vim, because the steam keyboard doesn&#x27;t have a ctrl key, and i have to use a less ergonomic kde on-screen keyboard to push it (and i&#x27;m a heathen that prefers vscode anyway)
9999000009991 day ago
Technically wouldn&#x27;t it be much easier to just do the actual programming in a GitHub code space ?<p>I guess you&#x27;d need a stable connection though. I might try this as soon as Android actually impliments desktop mode correctly. Surprised OP didn&#x27;t use Samsung Dex.
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sampoabout 17 hours ago
&gt; 4. The phone has a cellular connection, so I&#x27;m not tied to wifi.<p>Do American phone companies block sharing wifi from your phone, or why would someone with a phone feel they are tied to a wifi when needing to use a laptop?
cycomanic1 day ago
I&#x27;ve been wanting a simulavr since I saw the first videos. A proper Linux dev environment in a pair of VR classes (and I really wouldnt want to hack around Linux on android). Too bad that they still far away from being real.
kylecazarabout 18 hours ago
There&#x27;s a 5th option for Linux on Android now (currently Pixel users only, presumably rolling out to everyone eventually). You can get a fully virtualized Debian (AVF) environment by enabling a switch in settings.
imhoguyabout 22 hours ago
I think the keyboard in such setup needs a disruption, because it is the last piece which keeps us in the old world of typing machine on a table.<p>I am thinking about some kind of wearable keyboard, either attached to trousers on laps, or kind of gloves. But gloves usually have no tactile response.
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gcanyon1 day ago
The Xreal Air 2 Pro costs $299 new; why would you buy it used for $260?
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blackhaj7about 16 hours ago
I would love an article on how to setup the phone @mikenew<p>I am a complete novice with this but very interested in replicating the setup as I feel the urge to be freer while coding
hopppabout 18 hours ago
Ive been thinking about this too. Got the glasses and was thinking about small wireless split keyboards like the corne-ish zen<p>My issue is the phone. I will need at least 24Gb of ram for my work.
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codingbot3000about 21 hours ago
Maybe stupid question: What does it mean to add a bluetooth mouse to this setup?
tippytippytango1 day ago
I hope they can figure out why these give some people headaches and eye strain (like myself) I really want to use this, but can&#x27;t stand the pain for more than a few minutes.
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hardwaresoftonabout 20 hours ago
Has anyone tried the Viture Pro? There are myopia adjusters built in.
Korovaabout 24 hours ago
It might be a bit bigger than you&#x27;d prefer, but this Royal Kludge folding keyboard is apparently great<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=y941mt8mtmk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=y941mt8mtmk</a>
djrj477dhsnv1 day ago
I had tried a similar setup over a year ago. The blurry edges of the screen and weight of the glasses were an annoyance, but the main reason I didn&#x27;t continue using it was because I&#x27;m moderately near-sighted and often switch from contacts, to glasses, to no corrective lenses, which wouldn&#x27;t work with fixed focus VR glasses.
ivanb1 day ago
This is the future. Foldable, headless computer-in-keyboard and some glasses. In a sense we are doing a full circle to Commodore 64 form factor.<p>One overlooked aspect is ergonomics. Laptops are terrible for posture, unlike the poster&#x27;s HMD setup.
bilsbieabout 21 hours ago
Wow I’ve been wanting this for years. My adhd makes it hard to sit at a desk for long periods of time. I think moving locations frequently would be great.
8note1 day ago
with the gen ai cli tools, i think if i go all in, i could skip lugging my laptop around. theres some UX warts to phones where i think i need a keyboard for tab, ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+d, delete, and so on, that arent in gboard, but i think it could be a fun side project to design and build a tiny mechanical keyboard that only had those buttons i need<p>im running the newer pixel fold, so ive already got a ton of screen real estate.<p>ive made a couple code changes phone-only now, using the amazon internal browser that has ssh access to my dev desktop.<p>im missing the ability to get cloudwatch logs and the like, but when i get a good mcp, i think i can leave my laptop at home<p>my previous workflow was mostly on pen&#x2F;paper though, only touching the keys when i know what code im going to write, or when i need to lookup something specific, so i think im in a better spot for phone dev than somebody with ten monitors each showing some chunk of code
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henrik_1 day ago
It would be cool to be able to use the screen in the glasses as a monitor. So when you look down at your laptop screen, the screen in the glasses would dissapear or something.
mrbluecoat1 day ago
&gt; ultimately, the aarch64 glibc rootfs tarball of Void Linux fit the bill, and it&#x27;s been running beautifully.<p>Void FTW!
edniteabout 22 hours ago
Thanks for sharing. It&#x27;s a really clear write-up. I’ve been planning something similar and might just follow your setup.
tripdout1 day ago
How do ARM64 binaries like window managers, Firefox, etc run and with graphical acceleration on Android?<p>I guess as a start the chroot provides glibc and all the other libraries that run natively, but how does any of this interact with hardware?
bilsbieabout 21 hours ago
Is the screen fixed in space like vr? Ie it’s a virtual screen. Or does it move when you move your head?
rramon1 day ago
Might even use the phone as a trackpad&#x2F;mouse for other non cli tasks.
ffaser5gxlsllabout 23 hours ago
Using VR glasses instead of screens is a wet dream of mine, but VR tech has been one of the worst vendor-locked tech I have ever seen.<p>I haven&#x27;t keep up lately, but as a linux-only dev, is there any hw combo which would give me full native hardware support and the ability to develop for the platform?<p>(I don&#x27;t count linux-on-[android|win] as a solution)
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Scipio_Afri1 day ago
What about using this to replace a multi screen setup at home?
fennecbuttabout 20 hours ago
I can&#x27;t wait for high fov variable dof across the image.<p>Google lens was shot down by a society of thoughtless individuals but we&#x27;ll see ar happen in a couple decades, I&#x27;m sure.<p>Will be great to life through phones being replaced by glasses and then eventually contact lenses.
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crvdgcabout 23 hours ago
What about Cardboard VR like headset + a keyboard? Has anyone tried this setup?
jacooper1 day ago
Google is now shipping a full Debian Linux VM on pixels, apparently this is a part of the plan to introduce a desktop computing mode on Android. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidauthority.com&#x2F;android-desktop-mode-leak-3550321&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidauthority.com&#x2F;android-desktop-mode-leak-3...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;03&#x2F;13&#x2F;android_15_linux_debian_terminal&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;03&#x2F;13&#x2F;android_15_linux_debi...</a>
ycui19861 day ago
one of the problem that I have using AR glasses for work is that I have to refocus my eyes every time I try to type anything, which is an annoyance. The eyes focus to the infinity on the AR glasses, but near sight when typing. This is on top of the fact that keyboard is much dimmer to look at when wearing the AR glasses.
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mensetmanusmanabout 21 hours ago
&#x2F;a moment of silence for the textblade&#x2F;
RestartKernel1 day ago
Good read, this is one of those things I&#x27;ve considered doing myself, but never committed to. Having someone describe the experience in such detail is very much appreciated.<p>&gt; RAM usage often gets close to that 12GB ceiling.<p>Unused memory is wasted memory. Just because you&#x27;re almost maxing out those 12 gigabytes doesn&#x27;t mean you&#x27;d be in trouble with less.
astrodude1 day ago
really useful when you are travelling without laptop and you need to quickly fix a thing
teruakohatu1 day ago
It is disappointing that this requires rooting. Essentially this requires deciding if you want a dev environment or banking apps&#x2F;nfc wallet or be willing to play an endless game of cat and mouse.
throwthro09541 day ago
I&#x27;m quite far sighted, is it possible to use AR glasses for farsighted people?
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k__1 day ago
With the new 6DoF glasses it could be a viable alternative to a laptop, yes.
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2OEH8eoCRo0about 19 hours ago
Stuff like this is a glimpse into the future that we were robbed of by the current big tech status quo.<p>They&#x27;re running a 3rd party OS on their phone using a 3rd party external keyboard and 3rd party display. Interoperability! Imagine that! Running whatever software you want with whatever accessories you want on hardware that you own! Tech should have made it easier to accomplish this!
amelius1 day ago
Do they have a USB-C cable running from the phone to the glasses?
throwaway2901 day ago
There is a review of Xreal glasses in russian internet, auto-translate is interested. Guy started losing vision pretty quick after using them as monitor replacement. Take care<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iphones.ru&#x2F;iNotes&#x2F;otkazalsya-ot-ochkov-rasshirennoy-realnosti-xreal-air-2-pro-spustya-mesyac-posle-pokupki-potomu-chto-zrenie-dorozhe" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iphones.ru&#x2F;iNotes&#x2F;otkazalsya-ot-ochkov-rasshiren...</a>
fouc1 day ago
is a Pixel phone the best way to go for this setup or can a Samsung phone work too?
asdev1 day ago
Apple is releasing Vision OS 2 which lets you do an ultrawide display on the Vision Pro. It looks phenomenal and has no lag
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tbrownaw1 day ago
&gt; 1080p<p>So good enough for gargoyling or other situations where even a laptop form factor is a pain, but not a proper replacement yet.
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sneak1 day ago
&gt; <i>I wrote most of this blog post sitting at a picnic table in a park. Screen glare and brightness is not an issue. I can fit into tight spaces. This setup was infinitely more comfortable than a laptop when on a plane. Some coffee shops also have narrow bars that are too small for a laptop, but not for this. The phone has a cellular connection, so I&#x27;m not tied to wifi. In other words, there&#x27;s a sense of freedom that you do not get with a laptop. And I can be outdoors. One of the things I&#x27;ve grown tired of as software dev is feeling like I&#x27;m stuck inside all the time in front of a screen. With this I can walk to a coffee shop and work for an hour or two, then get up and walk to a park for another hour of work.</i><p>Am I the only one who wishes they could be inside in a windowless room 24&#x2F;7&#x2F;365? There’s climate control, HEPA filtration, good chairs, peace and quiet, precisely the light level and color and direction I like, etc, at all times. Every time I go outside, the environment is worse than being at home indoors.<p>Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one on the planet who doesn’t enjoy being outdoors at all.
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maradyuraabout 21 hours ago
dev setup from the future :)
__rito__1 day ago
Can I now completely get rid of the physical keyboard? I will go full in on AR(&#x2F;VR) when I can comfortably type into thin air, lying down, kinda like this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;nv8Qj72" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;nv8Qj72</a>
halyconWays1 day ago
Air 2 Pros!? I have those and can&#x27;t stand using them for work. I was hoping the One Pros would be a big enough step up that I could use AR glasses for daily productivity.
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backendEngineerabout 20 hours ago
oh boy
rasengan1 day ago
Now that Google is rolling out native Debian with Android, this will only get better - in addition to Google&#x27;s native DeX.<p>I&#x27;m sooo ready for the one device life! :D
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theflyestpilot1 day ago
this is rad
gitroom1 day ago
This is nuts in the best way - love seeing someone out here just making things work for real stuff.
flyinglizard1 day ago
I can’t grasp tech professionals who nickel and dime over their setup. Like buying used, not using late gen hardware etc. You’re spending half your awake hours in front of the thing, just buy the latest and greatest.
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eeasss1 day ago
Why
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